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  • I’m not saying that magically getting everyone to know who they should vote for and then show up to the polls is feasible, just that refusing to participate because the system’s ‘broken’ is what the system wants and how it makes sure it keeps doing the things it does

    Making it difficult to vote is a reason it’s designed to fail, but it’s very possibly the least impactful.

    Even if everyone participates, there are still dozens of ways in which capital restricts the options/neuters governance against the interests of the working class. Historically, it has almost never been turnout that drives progress, but dedicated, persistent, and quite often violent action by a relatively small number of actors. Nearly all of our basic labor rights came not from the working-class voter turnout but by armed protest and seizure of capital and infrastructure. Even when representation overwhelmingly ‘supports’ reform, the pressures of capital dis-incentivize regulation if they can avoid it (else they catch the blowback from unhappy capitalists, who quite literally control the nation’s productive capacity and resources) - it isn’t until the working class shows their willingness to disrupt the flow of profit that true progress is made.

    I understood your whole comment, but my point isn’t event just that our system is designed to prevent participation, it’s also designed to prevent populist movements from making progress to begin with. “The system doesn’t want you to participate” is only a very small part of the story - it also does not need to listen to the popular will unless it’s backed by an implicit threat of violence.

    I’m not even telling you not to vote, just that voting alone will never be enough, not even with total participation - especially when we have already reached the point in capitalist decay where fascism has taken control of governance. You cannot vote your way out of fascism, and the sooner people realize this the sooner people will stop being content with merely voting.


  • it’s designed to only function as advertised if there’s full participation

    Uh, what? Are you forgetting that suffrage was originally limited to land-owning men?

    It was never designed for full participation - universal suffrage has been repeatedly rejected in favor of ‘compromised’ exclusions since our founding.

    Our system has been quite literally designed to prevent full participation, idk where this idea comes from that full participation is somehow the true spirit of american democracy.

    Either way, it’s much easier to convince people to go out and vote than it is to convince them to take up arms in a revolution, kill their opponents, and risk being killed or imprisoned as a consequence

    It’s not an exaggeration to say that basically every bit of progress for labor and democratic rights in the US has been won by violent struggle, and it’s never been by a ‘majority’ of voters.


  • Apathetic morons who don’t realize that the president is only held accountable by the other branch of government

    Maybe this was a typo, but there are actually 3 branches of government, and we’re already in a constitutional crisis between the first and third

    For retaking a chamber of congress to be significant in the fight against fascism it has to actually be functioning. If they were to impeach and convict (60 votes in the Senate and they currently only have 47), Trump could just say ‘no’ like he did to the SC. Even if they convicted and Trump didn’t just say ‘I ain’t fucking leavin’, a third of the country is still rabidly supportive of him. That’ll impact who even can win seats in congress, and they would probably burn the national mall down this time

    Libs need to get past their inability to see how the system has completely fallen apart.

    History never ended, we should stop pretending like it did.











  • Our economy is now tanking because of these fools

    Funny how these accusations were relatively absent for the last three months while visa and green card holders were shipped off to labor camps in El Salvador, but as soon as Trump does some shit to tank the economy, that’s when the knives come out

    Liberals will defend the same problematic capital structures as republicans - change my mind.







  • Are we really still doing this?

    Honestly it seems like liberals hate their own base more than the reactionaries they are supposedly the opposition to

    Actually that tracks, since most of the DNC has been flirting with reactionary commentators and billionaires while actively criticizing the one part of their party actually building momentum