This feels exactly like people fighting against gun control while schools are shot up on the regular. Get over your individualism and sparkling ideals and realize that something has to be done. If your privacy and personal freedom are tied to Facebook and Twitter, maybe that’s a you problem.
Why does every country on earth need to do it? Will a massive majority of the population switch to VPNs just to watch some YouTube videos? Is that any different from kids trying to circumvent other age gated activities? Does YouTube even want that VPN traffic if it makes them less money? Why not just ban smart phones for kids?
What measures do you need to enforce it beyond what already exists? The only ones that matter are massive mega-platforms. If a platform isn’t complying just punish it.
The main question is how much of your life really needs to exist in a digital space? People paid bills, shopped, watched porn, played games and read news before the internet. Democracy falls when an entire generation of voters is raised on supporting Tate-endorsed fascism. This is not a non-issue. It’s happening no matter how much you tut-tut everyone’s parenting.
The solution is to give those laws teeth. Harsh regulations on platforms that serve unmoderated content open to everyone. Enforce transparency on content serving algorithms. Massive penalties for security breaches. Ban platforms that don’t comply.
If you’re worried about state actors having access to your clearnet data, that’s pretty much unavoidable in the internet age. You can lessen that by pushing against the digitization of society. You shouldn’t need a smart phone or internet service to live daily life.
Support brick-and-mortar stores, your local library, a local hobby group. Campaign against always-online car features, IoT e-waste, traffic surveillance laws, etc… Don’t make me choose between subjecting children to a stream of unregulated bullshit and the right to privacy. It’s a false dichotomy propped up by our need for digital convenience.
It’s not social medias fault. This is POOR PARENTING. Plain and simple.
Sounds like absolving social media to me.
The complexity of social media engineering and the scope of its impact is unprecedented. It’s not at all the same thing as video game or TV panic. When you account for how much real-life peer discussion is driven by these platforms, protecting your child from this toxic rhetoric is nearly impossible.
You used to have to show your ID to rent a movie in person, why is doing it online any different? If you (rightfully) are concerned about data collection and surveillance, push for legeslative protections on that topic. This is a completely separate issue with a very clear root cause.
If you believe there should be no accountability or oversight for the richest companies ever that have deep personal access to billions of people across the globe, you should wake to the realities of the 21st century.
I would argue that those factors aren’t a direct cause, but the isolation leaves them vulnerable to things like this. The internet used to be wide open and your semi-random traversal of independent sites would still expose you to a diverse array of people and content.
The pursuit of profit led to massive, accessible, engagement driven social media platforms. Optimization for ad views meant segmenting demographics and serving them distilled content. The hyper specific content led to these demographics living in echo chambers based on their flavor of polarizing content.
The Tate-sphere is built around exploiting that isolation and selling bogus solutions. There’s no specific reason the algorithm funnels into it other than it’s catches a broad user base on a charged topic => $$$. The algorithm could just as easily push young men into fighting for socially beneficial causes, but anger is a strong emotion that gives the most money.
So over a few years millions of parents decided to collectively take a hard pivot into bad parenting? Couldn’t possibly be an unprecedented media environment with algorithmic targeting?
No you didn’t. You said arm them and encourage them to shoot any random guy in a bullet proof vest who shows up. Read your own damn comments.
If it’s not our choice to make then keep your stupid counter productive fantasies to yourself.
If you insist on pointless suicide-by-cop for these people, why not have them make a real statement. Distribute gas cans and tell them to self immolate in front of the white house.
If you really super-duper want violence, argue for impactful insurrection with organized goals. Reactionary violence against nameless jack boots is the least useful thing imaginable and you look foolish for frothing over it.
Honest question: if the administration’s defense is shrugging because he’s in another country, doesn’t the judge have an easy layup to shut down CECOT deportations?
They can’t have it both ways, either follow due process or keep your slave detention camps domestic. It’s not interfering in foreign policy to point out they need to choose.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/08/politics/due-process-supreme-court-alien-enemies-act/index.html
That doesn’t sound like like a 9/9 slam dunk shutdown. It’s a 5/4 vote to remind the administration they need some fig leaf of due process. The article goes over all the ways that this isn’t really a check on the unconstitutional deportations.
Nobody said you have to enjoy them, learning how to formulate and structure your thought process is still important
I apologize if my phrasing is combative; I have experience with this topic and get a knee-jerk reaction to supporting AI as a literacy tool.
Your argument is flawed because it implicitly assumes that critical thinking can be offloaded to a tool. One of my favorite quotes on that:
The point of cognitive automation is NOT to enhance thinking. The point of it is to avoid thinking in the first place.
(coincidentally from an article on the topic of LLM use for propoganda)
You can’t “open source” a model in a meaningful and verifiable way. Datasets are massive and, even if you had the compute to audit them, poisoning can be much more subtle than explicitly trashing the dataset.
For example, did you know you can control bias just by changing the ordering of the dataset? There’s an interesting article from the same author that covers well known poisoning vectors, and that’s already a few years old.
These problems are baked in to any AI at this scale, regardless of implementation. The idea that we can invent a way out of a misinformation hell of our own design is a mirage. The solution will always be to limit exposure and make media literacy a priority.
Respectfully, you have no clue what you’re talking about if you don’t recognize that case as the exception and not the rule.
Many of these early generation LLMs are built from the same model or trained on the same poorly curated datasets. They’re not yet built for pushing tailored propaganda.
It’s trivial to bake bias into a model or put guardrails up. Look at deepseek’s lock down on any sensitive Chinese politics. You don’t even have to be that heavy handed, just poison the training data with a bunch of fascist sources.
Hey MuskAI, is this verifiable fact about Elon’s corruption true?
No, that’s fake news. Here’s a few conspiracy blogs that prove it. Buy more Trump Coin 💰🇺🇸
Side rant: I fucking hate the phrase “unseasonably warm/cold”.
We haven’t had a normal season in decades, maybe we should just admit we broke the seasons instead of tiptoeing around it.
Hold on everyone, get your pens out. This guy has a carefully detailed plan to solve all our problems
Except what you’re suggesting is not a nice controlled egress through the emergency exit or calling the fire department. The only “other thing” that you could possibly want is violence in the streets. Easy to call for when it’s not your neighborhood or safety on the line.
You know what follows a large scale protest at critical mass? It’s not shrug and go home…
Dumbass commenters in this thread will be finding flaws in a literal insurgency…
I don’t disagree with your conclusion but in this case it’s actually irrelevant. A simple majority in the house doesn’t mean shit for following through with an impeachment.