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    A new engine for a 7+ year old out of warranty car that cost as much as a mass market EV is NOT going to cost you $10k.

    And yes, there are more parts in conventional cars, but most parts are cheap to repair/replace. There’s no $20k part that WILL need replacing like there is in a EV. There’s no part that will make your car get less mileage every year.

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        Saying that on average a EV battery will last you 400k miles for one lol.

        There’s also the fact that it will need to be charged more and more frequently the older the car gets, as battery capacity reduces.

        Then there’s the fact that one is a twin turbo performance car, the other is a family car.

        Also the fact that electricity prices have been absolutely soaring the last few years, with no end in sight, while petrol prices have remained static for years.

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          I think that’s already been proven, at least in the case of Teslas, that the batteries DO actually last that long on average?

          Batteries that lose range but still functioning generally are being swapped out but then sold as house batteries, still incredibly useful and bigger than most house batteries. So they are not a total loss and largely still functioning. Newer battery systems allow swap out of individual cells.

          If you look in the comments, someone swapped out the BMW to a cheap ICE car and the Tesla was still cheaper, lol.

          I don’t know where you are but electricity prices here have been going down as we add more renewables to the grid. Most EV owners have solar, and mostly charge for less or free from home - I’m one of them.

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            It has not been proven that Tesla and ev batteries last that long on average.

            The more renewables that are added to the grid the higher electricity prices go.

            Swapping a petrol guzzling twin turbo bmw for a fuel efficient small diesel car will swing the cost calculation significantly favour of the ICE car. EV cars cost significantly more than ICE cars in their segment.

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              Dude. I’ve provided the receipts with literally every post. You have provided nothing. Give it up already, you are ideologically hamstrung and unable to accept that you are wrong.

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                You haven’t provided receipts, you’ve provided baseless pro-EV guesses and terribly inaccurate guesstimates.

                You still can’t accept that buying a second hand EV, especially one out of warranty, is a massive risk.

                The market agrees with me. Second hand EV sales, especially out of warranty ones, are immensely unpopular.

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                  Given the EV market is barely a decade old, I think it’s a bit soon to make such ridiculous claims, that myself and others have given many, many sources of facts (not feelings, which is literally all you are providing).

                  It’s clear you are quite happy being influenced by scary propaganda c/o the oil industry - you’re still living in 2019 in Scummo’s “ruined weekend” land.

                  And having a peek at your other activity, I’d like to echo some others opinions - you really don’t belong here, maybe just leave, troll. You are tedious and just seem to want a fight with anyone who will take your bait. Boring.

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                    You posting pro-ev site propaganda sources doesn’t help your cause lol

                    People don’t want second hand EVs precisely because of the battery warranty issue.

                    https://evcentral.com.au/shock-report-used-evs-are-losing-value-faster-in-australia-and-taking-longer-to-sell/

                    I don’t even need to look at your profile to know that you’re like a Bowen loving “renewables” grifter.

                    What’s hilarious is like I said way back at the start of this - my next car will be an EV, likely a Tesla. I’ve been a fan of them and following closely since the roadster. You ignore that though because I don’t just blindly ignore all inconvenient truths about them.

                    Also I am a moderator here so just watch where you’re going with that last paragraph.