2028 primary election polls?
I’m busy planning the Orlando Magic’s NBA title parade, while we’re worrying about realistic concerns.
Carry on AOC, perhaps she will lead the normal Americans out of the fucking orange nightmare.
Good. I’ll never forgive that simpering, cowardly, weak, spineless bitch for stabbing Al Franken in the back. He should quit while has a chance to do it without looking too bad, but if he won’t, she should run him out in embarrassing and humiliating fashion.
AOC got into Congress by beating the #4 Democratic Congressional leader in the primary, now she’s poised to beat the top Senate Democrat in the primary. She’s an actual giant killer. All other Democrats should take note - it’s not her politics that people are responding to, it’s her strength. We need people who aren’t afraid to stand up to the Nazis, and she is fearless.
This is in 3 years… not many Americans can remember that far
That’s why he needs to resign now, so she can navigate whatever mechanism NY has to replace him (special election or governnor appointment). He might as well quit now, he has no coherent plan to resist the Nazis for the next 3 years, just appeasement and capitulation. Get out of the way and let someone who wants to do the job have a crack at it.
Also her politics though. They’re pretty good.
It is her politics and her strength, and Also her transparency and her target demographic. She represents the people - not the big corporations, even the corporations that favor Democrats. She’s here for the 99%, and to help her people, she is willing to take from the top 1% that never should have the money they possess.
I just want her to run for president. But after fielding 2 uninspiring establishment centre-right candidates with no grassroots base, that offer nothing exciting, the Democrats and even many voters think that women in general are unelectable.
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I just don’t think very highly of Americans in general. They are too sexist, too racist, and too elitist.
They want a rich old white man. Only one time ever did they attempt something else, and that lead directly to a third of the country becoming extremists.
I love AOC. Hope she will become president one day. But please just run with someone that your sexist, racist, elitist neighbors can actually vote for.
Let AOC become Senate majority leader first. That would be really cool, impactful, and help people get used to her.
I’d LOVE to see AOC as president, but I think this post is sopt on perfect. I think she could do some amazing good as Senate Minority, and eventually Majority Leader, and become president a bit later in life.
Gerald Ford was once addressing a classroom, and one of the kids asked him if a woman would ever be President, and he said that a woman would definitely be president someday, but the first woman president wouldnt be directly elected. He thought the first woman president would be a vice president, who gets promoted when the president dies. After that, a woman wouldn’t have a problem getting elected. I thought that was a pretty insightful read on the weird bigotry of Americans.
Nah I vehemently disagree with this. The racist sexist bigots aren’t going to vote democrat no matter what. Kamala spent a lot of time trying to court the “”“moderate”" republicans and it didn’t work.
Obama won because he had a base and he got people excited. People still remember “Yes we can” and just the general hope and inspiration he brought.
And honestly to even suggest the radicalisation of the right was due to Obama is crazy.
The racist sexist bigots aren’t going to vote democrat no matter what.
Don’t make the mistake of thinking that racism and especially sexism don’t exist within the Democratic voting base. They are much less of a problem than within the Republican voting base, but they are still significant enough to swing elections.
And honestly to even suggest the radicalisation of the right was due to Obama is crazy.
Not solely due to Obama, but his existence in the White House did get a lot of people to take off their masks.
AOC is having a fucking moment, so naturally women of color suddenly can’t win. Sanders got raked over the coals for just being accused of saying something like that to Warren. But it’s sure different now that the party can’t use it as a weapon against a progressive. Now they’re trying to keep AOC from running. So the party will hold back all women in order to hold back one progressive woman.
Let AOC become Senate majority leader first. That would be really cool, impactful, and help people get used to her.
It will give us time to think of a new excuse.
How is it sudden? Trump won both times you tried running women as president. Your fellow countrymen are bigots, have you not noticed that yet?
I know you want it, its fine. But the world cant take 4 extra years of whoever heritage chooses to dismantle democracy for them, if i happen to be right.
How is it sudden?
Because there’s speculation that AOC might run.
Trump won both times you tried running women as president.
Trump won both times we ran uninspiring centrist women for president. AOC is neither uninspiring nor centrist.
Your fellow countrymen are bigots, have you not noticed that yet?
The ones you want to impress certainly are.
You have 50mil eligible voters who haven’t even registered. You have another 40 million registered voters that didn’t bother to show.
I agree with you that AOC is the best bet America has for a better future. But the important thing is not getting the best outcome, the important thing is actually beating the Nazis.
Are you willing to bet the future of the free world that you are right? I simply don’t have enough faith in the American people. You keep disappointing.
You have 50mil eligible voters who haven’t even registered. You have another 40 million registered voters that didn’t bother to show.
Yes, voter apathy is a problem. Running uninspiring candidates isn’t going to fix apathy; it will make apathy much worse.
I agree with you that AOC is the best bet America has for a better future. But the important thing is not getting the best outcome, the important thing is actually beating the Nazis.
Ain’t seein’ much evidence of anyone else actually willing to oppose nazis in any way.
Are you willing to bet the future of the free world that you are right?
The last 3 elections have been against trump. We ran dull “not trump, I guess” candidates in all three. Biden only barely squeaked in and then spent four years demonstrating that democrats don’t keep their promises to anyone not named netanyahu.
If you have a more charismatic candidate than AOC, a white (conservative, naturally, since that’s all this is really about) male, name him.
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Was nodding along until you commented on a politician’s appearance….
Unless you haven’t lived in the real world, you’d know that -like it or not- looks also matter, and right now we need all the matter we can get
It matters more for a women, men are allowed to be ugly.
It matters for men too, though I’ll agree it matters more for women
I’m not saying this is a good thing, I’m saying this is how it is because it’s how humans are wired. Like it or not, subconsciously you’ll like pretty people better
JFK has entered the chat.
In the first televised presidential debate in 1960, radio listeners said that Nixon won, but TV viewers thought he looked thin and sallow compared to Kennedy’s youthful vigor and gave JFK the edge.
Appearance has played a big role in politics ever since.
I think they meant that in the sense that charisma is a practical tool to get elected and to get your message across, not that they want to see more hotties on CSPAN.
Like the other reply said, it’s unfortunate that it’s a significant factor, but here it is.
It’s the unfortunate reality in American politics, especially for someone from a minority group
Or any woman
yeah MTG is really struggling.
“Look at this one example, that means bigotry no longer exists!”
Sarah Sanders too. I can fund a few more. I am not saying Republicans are not sexiest
I’ve never voted for anyone because the are considered “good looking”. What a shallow approach to politics.
Yes. It’s an incredibly shallow approach to politics. Humans are shallow.
Can confirm, am human
she better research if schumers districts only vote for someone like him over her, because if they do, she isnt likely to win regardless.
It’s a statewide race.
Come 2028 and the Dems are going to try running with Hillary again.
Lmao we’re all going to be in mass graves by 2028
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why we need a moderate candidate just like hillary and kamala.
Screw the “don’t rock the boat” candidates… unless they’re the only option compared to the “let’s destroy America!” candidate on the other side.
Not rocking the boat is better than setting the country on fire for no goddamn reason (if the system were burning down with a reasonable expectation we could make it better that’d be arguably different). I’m sure there are plenty that feel smugly superior for having “protested” by not voting, and I trust you don’t mind the whole “country’s on fire” thing going on (insert “this is fine” meme).
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lol 🤡
Not American but from my point of view it looks like you need her more than anything. Her, and preferably many more just like her. Normal intelligent people from all walks of life. Decent human beings.
This is also why I’ve never had an issue with Elizabeth Warren, not that I want to be shilling for her here. I would’ve loved to see her get a real chance at the presidency though. While she might be relatively wealthy now she also came from a comparatively normal background, and she seems to remember living it, too (I obviously don’t have her voting records in front of my face, but I’ve read almost everything she’s ever written).
Got called a misogynist at Reddit back then for daring to suggest she might be a good candidate, because apparently that’s what you are if you think she might have a better temperament than trump…
I digress, though. AOC is awesome.
No need for a moderate candidate. If you have another election, people would happily vote for a mentally handicapped squirrel over whatever republican is running.
Cool… AOC is leading in the polls about an imaginary election taking place more than 3 years from now. Meanwhile yesterday I spent $116 on groceries and didn’t even need help carrying them up the stairs.
$116 of groceries that you can carry up the stairs‽ So like, a few bananas, an avocado, and some stale bread (no toasting required)? Quit bitching, you’re spending wayyy over your means, obviously! Lemme guess, you occasionally enjoy cheese as well. Have you tried $116 worth of beans instead?.. I bet not, you bougie peasant
I really hope she runs for NY Senator. We need both Schumer and Gillibrand to go.
Uh oh establishment dems… that’s a huge margin.
Better pull strings to shoehorn the controlled opposition back in!
Quick! Gather the superdelegates! 🥴🦸♂️
AOC 2028
AOC Now!
It’s amazing to me that she’s still only a congresswoman. I can’t think of anybody who has been in the national spotlight for that long without moving up to at least senator, if not a cabinet position.
She first got elected in 2018. How many senators got there within three election cycles of their first office? Just because Obama went from Illinois State Senate to US Senate to President in a four year span doesn’t make such a climb normal.
It’s not just Obama. Reagan spent only 2 terms, 8 years as governor of California before becoming president. George W Bush spent only 5 years as governor of Texas before becoming president. JD Vance only spent 2 years as a senator before becoming VP.
For people who haven’t become president, Tammy Duckworth spent only 4 years as a congresswoman before being elected to the senate. John McCain was only a congressman for 4 years before becoming a senator.
Generally people who get national name recognition that quickly don’t hang out in congress that long. Once they hit the senate, sometimes their progress stalls. See Biden, Warren, Bernie, McCain, John Edwards, John Kerry, Bob Dole, etc. But, normally national name recognition = senate, at a minimum.
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Senators are congresswomen, no?
Technically yes, but we commonly refer to members of the House as congressmen/women and members of the Senate as senators. Being a senator gives you more power because there are only 100 of them compared to 435 House members, so it is a meaningful distinction to make.
That is some good news!
Cue the next learned essay about how what Democratic voters really want is centrists in 3, 2, 1…
The US has a centrist party? I thought it was right-wing or far right-wing, but to US voters, the former is “left”.
You thought correctly.
No matter how much the billionaire owned establishment media narrative tries to tell people otherwise, state and federal level politicians in the US are significantly further right wing than the electorate they’re supposed to accurately represent and have been for decades.
