I feel like they don’t argue as much as they should based on their sadistic behaviour in other aspects.

Like literally how do their relationships work. Do they just threaten each other when they need something?

These people in particular are especially vile and manipulative and evil. They are also sadistic and hold grudges like there’s no tomorrow.

How tf do they get along with EACH OTHER?

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    I don’t know, do they get along at all? What do you mean by “getting along” with each other? Have you got any examples?

    Psychos often prefer to do their things alone, although there are some exceptions, some even famous, like the Barbie and Ken killers whose real names escape me right now.

    But do these people really “get along”? I don’t think so. When you put someone toxic with a regular person, you get a toxic relationship. And when you put two toxics together, they don’t cancel each other out. They’re still toxic. They’re still fucked up.

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      Idk like not fighting 24/7 is an example. Pretending to be happy with each other when seen outside together.

      Another example. Staying together. How do 2 toxic people tolerate each other I don’t get it? I guess the pros outweigh the cons in some way? Like maybe one of them is rich and like the other offers great sex or something? Man I don’t know

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        Just go and read/ask/listen to anyone who lived through a toxic relationship. Or an abusive one. In many cases the abuse goes both ways and this is exactly the type you’re asking about. It’s way more mundane than what you think.

        You seem to be framing relationships in a materially transactional way, which isn’t how humans typically operate. That exists (ie. sugarbabes & daddies, or some arranged marriages in very religious cultures), but usually what holds a relationship together is the emotional and psychological exchange between the two people.

        In cases where abuse goes both ways what holds them together isn’t that A is rich and B gives sex, but rather A uses their wealth to degrade B and B in turn gets revenge making A feel inferior in bed for example. Note it’s the emotional hook and not the action that matters. And it’s never just one thing, but lots of layers. So on top of that maybe B is also manipulative in a specific manner which makes A want to lash out in some specific passive aggressive way and so on. They get into a loop that gets more and more complex as the relationship progresses. And neither party wants to break up, even though threatening to do so might very well be part of the equation, because they’re hooked up on getting the next upper hand.

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          I feel like you’re just describing a toxic relationship not necessarily a pathological dark triad one.

          most humans don’t work transactionally

          Maybe not consciously but they most certainly do… they look for attractiveness, social status, personality etc etc etc

          Most people wouldn’t date someone who is hideous, jobless and has no friends for example. Most people chose someone who will contribute to their life somehow ú

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            Have you ever had a relationship? Or had a solid conversation with people in stable relationships? Behavior and friends (friends being a marker of healthy social behavior) are more important than employment and looks by a landslide when it comes to establishing relationships. Employment matters only when trying to share resources, but not for dating. It’s more important to have interests and show motivation and dedication to potentially get a job than having a job. Just ask anyone. If you have a job you hate and no motivation to get anything better or any interests in other activities in your life then it’s gonna be hard to get a stable relationship with someone. With anyone I’d say.

            Your dark triad is present in any abusive relationship to one degree or another. If you are specifically asking about outliers then go dig the true crime rabbitholes. Plenty there.

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              Wtf do you mean behaviour? Do you know how many pieces of shit I know of that are in relationships?

              Same with friends. Tons of assholes have friends. Does that make them dating material?

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                Not very good relationships then, if they’re POS. I’ve already described the dynamics for those.

                And yes, having friends is a solid indication that these people can be dated. It’s also a potential indicator that they can not just date but establish a relationship, even if an unhealthy one. It doesn’t guarantee they will though.

                People who can’t make any sort of friendship can never get into any relationship, period. This is obvious. This conversation is getting pretty obvious.