I feel like they don’t argue as much as they should based on their sadistic behaviour in other aspects.
Like literally how do their relationships work. Do they just threaten each other when they need something?
These people in particular are especially vile and manipulative and evil. They are also sadistic and hold grudges like there’s no tomorrow.
How tf do they get along with EACH OTHER?
Are you 100% sure, that you’re not the one who’s toxic?
No actually I’m a psychopath and the abusers are actually the googd ones
I’m just letting you know that your post reads a little off. I understand that I have only the fraction of information and I’m not clear on all the context. But I only have what you provided.
I don’t know, do they get along at all? What do you mean by “getting along” with each other? Have you got any examples?
Psychos often prefer to do their things alone, although there are some exceptions, some even famous, like the Barbie and Ken killers whose real names escape me right now.
But do these people really “get along”? I don’t think so. When you put someone toxic with a regular person, you get a toxic relationship. And when you put two toxics together, they don’t cancel each other out. They’re still toxic. They’re still fucked up.
Idk like not fighting 24/7 is an example. Pretending to be happy with each other when seen outside together.
Another example. Staying together. How do 2 toxic people tolerate each other I don’t get it? I guess the pros outweigh the cons in some way? Like maybe one of them is rich and like the other offers great sex or something? Man I don’t know
Just go and read/ask/listen to anyone who lived through a toxic relationship. Or an abusive one. In many cases the abuse goes both ways and this is exactly the type you’re asking about. It’s way more mundane than what you think.
You seem to be framing relationships in a materially transactional way, which isn’t how humans typically operate. That exists (ie. sugarbabes & daddies, or some arranged marriages in very religious cultures), but usually what holds a relationship together is the emotional and psychological exchange between the two people.
In cases where abuse goes both ways what holds them together isn’t that A is rich and B gives sex, but rather A uses their wealth to degrade B and B in turn gets revenge making A feel inferior in bed for example. Note it’s the emotional hook and not the action that matters. And it’s never just one thing, but lots of layers. So on top of that maybe B is also manipulative in a specific manner which makes A want to lash out in some specific passive aggressive way and so on. They get into a loop that gets more and more complex as the relationship progresses. And neither party wants to break up, even though threatening to do so might very well be part of the equation, because they’re hooked up on getting the next upper hand.
I feel like you’re just describing a toxic relationship not necessarily a pathological dark triad one.
most humans don’t work transactionally
Maybe not consciously but they most certainly do… they look for attractiveness, social status, personality etc etc etc
Most people wouldn’t date someone who is hideous, jobless and has no friends for example. Most people chose someone who will contribute to their life somehow ú
Have you ever had a relationship? Or had a solid conversation with people in stable relationships? Behavior and friends (friends being a marker of healthy social behavior) are more important than employment and looks by a landslide when it comes to establishing relationships. Employment matters only when trying to share resources, but not for dating. It’s more important to have interests and show motivation and dedication to potentially get a job than having a job. Just ask anyone. If you have a job you hate and no motivation to get anything better or any interests in other activities in your life then it’s gonna be hard to get a stable relationship with someone. With anyone I’d say.
Your dark triad is present in any abusive relationship to one degree or another. If you are specifically asking about outliers then go dig the true crime rabbitholes. Plenty there.
Wtf do you mean behaviour? Do you know how many pieces of shit I know of that are in relationships?
Same with friends. Tons of assholes have friends. Does that make them dating material?
Not very good relationships then, if they’re POS. I’ve already described the dynamics for those.
And yes, having friends is a solid indication that these people can be dated. It’s also a potential indicator that they can not just date but establish a relationship, even if an unhealthy one. It doesn’t guarantee they will though.
People who can’t make any sort of friendship can never get into any relationship, period. This is obvious. This conversation is getting pretty obvious.
I know this community is open to all sorts of questions, but you clearly just have an axe to grind that you’re looking to see validated here. Come again when you’re trying to learn something.
Get a life
there’s a saying…
birds of a feather flock together
That doesn’t explain anything tho
it absolutely does
maybe you
can’t see beyond your own nose
Sometimes, people have huge long noses.
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That’s not how it works. If you have empathy you don’t do that shit
Just because someone is fake nice to their acquaintances doesn’t make them a good person, though I suppose the average sheep might think so
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You also, jumped to calling people sheep’s very quickly.
you called these people “especially vile and manipulative and evil”
you have clearly judged them and forgot that nobody here has an other factors to judge them by. That makes YOU very suspect and your judgement of them reflects more on you than anything else.
Nobody is going to be able to answer your questions.
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the concept of Dark Triad traits is overused early 00’s pop psychology
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it’s like BMI: fine for applying to a large population, but breaks down when looking at an individual
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even if useful at the individual level, “dark triad” indicates three traits but says nothing about the balance between them, e.g., a high mach and a low narc pairing will looking very different than two high machs.
IMO it is not useful to oversimplify any single relationship down to “two dark triads”.
Thanks for your help, though I disagree
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Everyone else is considered a common enemy, so they bond over their mutual disdain for them.
But surely if they’re evil they would also threaten or disrespect each other? Or no
There could be romance books out there. I personally dont know any but you might find answers in book communities
Acting.
Surely they can’t act 24/7?
Why not? Some serial killers could do it for decades.
I don’t think so. From what I’ve seen they mostly didn’t have anyone close, and just fooled their neighbours (which is easy I would think)
There is plenty that had a completly unsuspecting family, wife, children and all.
I mean there are also plenty of extremely stupid people. Plus their children wouldn’t know any better. In this case it’s the wife that’s stupid, but it’s possible they just lied to avoid jail time. Maybe they had their suspicions something is wrong with their husbands.
Good people like to have relationships with other good people because they share many of the same values, and they support one another in their aims in life. Sharing a life with another good person reinforces one’s positive traits, and creates a firmer, more coherent self image.
Oh, you said evil people? My bad… Same answer though.
