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Politically motivated kidnappings are terrorism. Our government is committing acts of domestic terrorism.
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
Which means more 2A people need to start practicing.
ICE agents shouldn’t get to go home at night.
Realistically, what would happen if ICE agents came in the middle of the night and a person were to completely gun them down? I assume it would escalate responses in general, but what happens to that person? Is martyrdom as much as they could hope for?
You would be labeled a terrorist, the ICE agents would become martyrs, and all future raids would be executed full SWAT style, with flashbangs, snipers, shoot to kill etc. They save a ton on deporting people, and get to straight up murder disidents in there home.
Yeah, they’re not gonna live to the next day, unless they get all of the agents.
But they would be doing a net good to society.
You would be put in prison, and the only hope of getting out is your revolution winning, taking power and absolving all the people who to action of their crimes.
Think about it this way: The government is tyrannical, but they don’t see it that way. They don’t see your use of the 2nd amendment as “valid”, they see it as killing federal officials trying to do their job. Your only chance is change.
Realistically, what would happen if ICE agents came in the middle of the night and a person were to completely gun them down?
The videos I’ve seen the ICE agents are in street clothes. They aren’t wearing uniforms, no badges, nothing to indicate they’re official agents at all.
If these people show up at night, I’d say open fire. They look like any other gang member.
Also, what’s worse, getting deported into slavelabour or dying in your home, but getting to fire back against the SS, ups ICE?
100%. If I were American (I’m not), in my American home (also not), on American soil (again not) and the government decided I was too woke and wanted to deport me to a deathcamp out of country, I’d definitely choose the Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid ending.
In fact, if this were happening in my town I might choose to go out slowly picking off as many ICE, government and police in their homes first.
The Venn diagram of those groups is a circle.
That is objectively false. While most pro 2A people are rightwing, to say or even imply that it is all is ridiculous and counterproductive to resistance.
Perhaps the outspoken ones from the past several decades.
But there are plenty who don’t out themselves, because they understand trigger discipline.
Ammosexuals is what we call em
Yes, indeed. 2A was written specifically for this situation.
What are 2A people?
Second Amendment, specifically the ones who have be very staunchly against government overreach (coincidentally, they’ve been largely conservative, and pro Fascist 47 - at least the loud online ones).
Again. His willful negligence in his Covid handling was already domestic terorism.
They know what they are, they display it proudly
Any such move on the part of the Trump administration is certain to be challenged in court.
Yeah, how’d that go last time?
How the White House ignored a judge’s order to turn back deportation flights
Trump administration argues judge can’t order the return of man mistakenly deported to El Salvador
But hey, I was not brown.
If there’s no due process for anyone they grab, then they weren’t planning to check if you were a citizen first anyway…
The courts will put a stop to it and then the supreme court will put a stay on the stop.
The courts will attempt to put a stop to it.
lmao
And to cut costs of “deporting” people, they will use trains. And to make it less traumatic, they won’t be transferred to prisons, they’ll call them camps. But not just normal camps, camps where people can concentrate on becoming better citizens. What if we call them… idk… concentration camps?
You’re telling me the US will have proper train infrastructure? That’s a great joke
The US has good train infrastructure for cargo
It has passable train infrastructure for cargo, in some places. Definitely not even close to “good.”
they’ll use road trains. Nobody said you would get normal trains, that’s too un-american.
Road trains are too Australian.
They will use cybertrains. basically a bunch of cybertrucks chained together.
In that case, the trains will double as ovens. Now that’s efficiency!
I shouldn’t laugh, but I did.
One good thing about the OG Holocaust, at least Germany and Poland got some good infrastructure out of it. Silver lining and all that.
Downside: you just can’t get a good bagel.
Nope. Just good soap.
Due process is for suckers.
Time to arm up friends.
Arm up if you haven’t already, you can get practice at a firing range (they are all over the US), practice firearm discipline and safety. Know how to clean and maintain.
And it doesn’t hurt to get some trump/maga gear because blending in is a powerful strategic option.
Trump gear, like a doll to lynch in effigy on my front lawn?
While this is important, remember that it is only a part of the skill sets people need to be familiar with. People should also train in more dynamic ways than just bench shooting. People should also get acquainted with small unit tactics as well as other core facets of modern combat such as drones, energetics, thermal, EW, Coms, and OPSEC.
Also, remember that this will be asymertical, so a focus on Guerrilla/partisan tactics is key.
Edit: Tor/onion is your friend.
Guess it is time for left wing militias
Blue state governments also need to resurrect their State Guard/State Defense Forces.
It’s shit like this that makes me glad I’m a gun owner with a CPL. Good luck government.
I get ya. That shoot out to the death with ice is so much better than deportation.
When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun When the law break in How you gonna go? Shot down on the pavement Or waiting in death row
I mean, it is. At least I’d have agency. If I die, oh well. We’re all going out one way or another. I may as well stand for something while making life harder or non-existent for fascists.
Unironically suicide by cop sounds better than a men’s prison as a trans woman.
We’re going to need bigger camps…
Cool, Trump can start with himself and his wife.
Oh, they will expand it don’t worry.
https://www.congress.gov/119/bills/hres26/BILLS-119hres26ih.pdf
Lovely, can’t wait. I used to wonder how we allowed genocide and extermination camps to exist without doing anything. Now i realize it’s bcz everyone was too busy trying to live their own lives, and most of the population was too busy hoping they didn’t get picked up by the SS, afraid for their own lives.
It’s easy to blame everyone but yourself
“No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible.”
Also apropos to traffic.
For those that may need it and cannot or will not fight, educate yourselves: https://www.unhcr.org/uk/about-unhcr/overview/1951-refugee-convention
…if it identifies a pathway it can claim to be legal
Based on everything else they have done ignoring legality, I have very little faith they won’t just start doing it anyways.
The MAGAts being MAGAts. They shred the constitution to hurt people.
I’ve seen this movie before. Can we just skip to the bunker scene?
May Trump follow his leader.
I H lasted 12 years first. No way Trump goes that long. He’ll insist he’s in charge sooner day and will be removed.
No way. He’d miss his own head and blame the liberals.
I prefer to die in a shootout at home in my PJs rather than a gulag in a shithole I can’t find on the map without cheating.
Fight now or be deported later
“Deported” makes it sound too good, TBH. It’s “fight now or be sent to a death camp later.”
Absolutely. I would infinitely prefer to end up in Valhalla than in CECOT.
