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    11 days ago

    I’m waiting for the market to either stop responding or crash and never recover since you can’t trust this fucking asshole.

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        7 days ago

        Right, but this happens enough. They’re going to just be selling and buying back from themselves eventually.

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      12 days ago

      I bought the dip once, years ago. Made like, I donno. Couple hundred bucks. Sold all my crypto at the same time. That was cumulative with the other thing. Made a couple hundred bucks.

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        12 days ago

        That’s the great thing about capitalism: anyone can make a ton of money, so long as they have a few tons of money.

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      11 days ago

      I got a little lucky in that I filed my taxes on Sunday and made my 2024 IRA contributions then. Only some of the funds were available Monday but I was able to buy. I would’ve bought regardless of the price (I don’t really time things) but it worked out nicely.

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            “I get it, people are upset. It’s a big deal, a great deal, it might even be the biggest deal in the history of deals. The Democrats are mad about it, very mad. ‘He can’t do that,’ they say. They’re poor losers. They tried to make good deals like this. Tried many times. They failed, and they’re mad because I didn’t. I make the biggest, best deals. But their deals, those are no big deal. I get it, they’re mad. Mad that I did what they couldn’t. The Democrats lie, they say ‘President Trump, you can’t do that.’ But I could do it. I did do it, and I proved them wrong. Just like when I beat Biden in 2024. They said I couldn’t do it. I did it. Just like when I beat Hillary in 2020. I couldn’t do it, I did it. Just like with Obama, I did it. They keep saying I can’t do this or I can’t do that. They say it’s impossible to do these things. They say many things, most of them wrong. They don’t want to look bad, weak. The Democrats, Antifa, they’re weak, so they lie. They think everyone is weak, just like them. That’s fine, that’s fine. You see, they’re copying me now. They see a strong leader, very successful businessman, and they want to be one too. They copy me. They say what I say, do what I do, and they try to stop me. They want to be me, but they don’t want me to be me, so they lie and cheat. They rigged the economy, set it to collapse with forced ‘vaccines’ and wasteful D-E-I. I come here with my tremendous plan, going to make America great again. Bring all the business and jobs back. The Democrats cheat again, they go on CNN. They go on CNN, sell their stocks, rig the market. They didn’t think. Stocks are going to go up, way up. Numbers like you’ve never seen before. And they sold. The tariffs, I paused them. They thought they could cheat, and I turned it around. They lost big. Really big. Real Americans, we’re fine. Better than fine. The Democrats, they’re not fine. They lost, they’re mad. Only the Democrats are upset, it’s fine. Nobody should be upset about that. They played their hand and lost, and they’re mad. Don’t listen to them, they’ll get over it. They lie and they cheat, and they lose every time. We’re winning, winning big. So big. We’re going to win even bigger next week. 300% tariffs on Democrat businesses. No more foreign workers. More jobs for America.”

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            12 days ago

            String him up!

            This is the only appropriate response, but Americans would prefer their symbolic cinematic marches with idols giving speeches as opposed to any real solutions.

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        There must be a way to surface this info? Surely there are known “insider” accounts one can track?

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        What is the source of this chart? I’d like to use the image on other sites, but I can’t without knowing what the source is.

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          If you plan to use it, you should know that there was a separate “good news”-event at that point in time. It would not surprise me if insider trading happened, but that spike could also be from the bond auction. As much as I want the US to lose their influence in the world, it’s important to not jump to conclusions for political reasons. The spike should be investigated properly, but at this point the US might be too corrupt for that to happen or have consequences.

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      I was just talking to my coworker at lunch that I’ll create an account and buy the dip. By the time we got back to our desks, I saw the news of the pause and everything shot up.

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        12 days ago

        By the time it hits the mainstream media, it’s too late for you or me.

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          11 days ago

          You’d have to be watching the speech, ready to react within a minute it two and you could have caught most of it.

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    11 days ago

    I’ve been saying this all along. Not just about this time, but he has pulled off a similar trade scare every month since he took office, with the same result - he announces tariffs, the market tanks, he rattles his sabre a bit, then pauses the tariffs, and the market rises again.

    This has been the third, and biggest one, probably because he needed to make it a big one as he cried wolf for a third time. Which means the next time he does it, it will have to be even bigger.

    Its clearly market manipulation, of a type that only president could do, but only if he were corrupt enough.

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      11 days ago

      They’re pumping and dumping like mad so when the major crash happens they can buy buy buy. You think corporations are consolidated now…just wait. The same that happened 100 years ago is happening now. Just people are too fucking stupid to see it.

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      Unfortunately, if it were only the president who’s corrupt, he would have already been impeached and removed. Even if there were a question about whether he does or does not want to become an authoritarian dictator, ignoring everything that is hinting at it, he is digging himself in the sort of hole that he can only survive in as long as he retains power and I’m sure he knows it.

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            Point to me the trade wars and civil rights rollbacks that happened during those times. We just had to keep doing the thing and keep pushing the needle towards progressive ideas and socialist policies that help people. That’s ALL we had to do together, it was working for a while.

            But nope. Everyone lost their attention spans because social media and russian bots amplifying the worst of all sides of every issue until everyone said “fuck it, I don’t care, I rather see drama than boring, slow, incremental progress.”

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              Boring, slow incremental progress is great. Not ideal, but great.

              However, a two-party system where one party is ALWAYS a single lost election from the advent or fascism is a democracy too brittle to survive.

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                11 days ago

                Point me to the better alternative and who’s leading it. Otherwise we’re stuck with the systems we have and nobody is going to be perfect, or even “good” in most regards. But I don’t see a choice unless we find a way to destroy capitalism entirely.

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                  11 days ago

                  We destroy capitalism or capitalism (finishes) destroying us. Appear to be the only two options available.

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              US gained the rights to legally murder its own citizens without due process under Obama.

              Also loads of giving corporations and capital rights, and rolling back protective anti-investment gambling under Democrat administrations, which ate up the rights of non-capital.

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      Russians and everyone else out there who ever wanted a slice of the pie have been attacking our social discourse for decades, amplifying the worst voices on both sides of every single issue so that people tune out and stop caring. This is the known doctrine for undermining democracies.

      Most people right now STILL don’t care, at least not enough to have an opinion or be bothered to do anything. This is the result of deliberate sabotage against our nation and the number of people who really understand this is so small that it doesn’t matter, it won’t be enough. Even if this wave of corruption is ended tomorrow, there are thousands more oligarchs and grifters waiting in the halls to move right in.

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      11 days ago

      Multiple treasons, and all the people who would punish him for his market manipulation just benefitted from it so they’re only going to thank him

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    I honestly don’t believe that trump is doing some intentional stock market grift. That would require foresight, planning, and self control despite ego.maybe someone gave hime some. Instructions or something but he sure as shit doesn’t care about those.

    Next up Republicans are gonna try to paint him as a loose “Pitt bull” when really he is just a loose cannon they can’t control.

    Their faces aren’t worth the cost of eggs

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    Is it 125% for China and 10% for everyone else currently?.. for 90 days?

    Or is it 10℅ across the board for 90 days?

    I’ll wait for his next tweet to make all my speculation pointless. Fuck this guy.

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      This is why countries need to make export tariffs in retaliation and leave them on during the chaos. Let the prices of everything in the US soar but allow them to collect none of it.

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    isnt there a video of him talking about how much him and his friends made from it? its not really an accusation at this point, he manipulated the market.

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    so when the fuck do we stop accusing and start charging and arresting? I’m so sick of these headlines saying that “people are saying Trump bad! no way :3” like…what are we DOING about it though??

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      Who’s going to charge and arrest him? The best we can hope for is massive nationwide protests or him failing to rig the election in 2028 and the next administration charging him if he doesn’t flee the Russia first

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        I am aware that it’s wishful thinking. I feel the same way you do, but even an arrest is better than nothing. it will take protests, it will take oversight and everything that comes along with it to fix this, absolutely

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        Optimistic take: economic damage could lead to the Republicans losing the house and senate, followed by Trump’s impeachment.

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          That’s my hope but if they rig the election or refuse to vacate their seats after losing, it’ll require the police/military (where many officials have already been replaced by magat loyalists) to step in.

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    im so tired.

    I know that’s the point but please just let me go

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      You’re tired because you’ve been reading the overly-amplified nonsense crafted by agents working both sides of every social issue for longer than you’ve likely been alive.

      Your exhaustion isn’t just the point, it’s the goal, it’s the goal for all of us, and it’s literally the reason why almost half of America still approves of our president and current situation.

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      Oh, you rather not hear how you’re getting fucked over just so that later you can be all outraged nobody told you?

      Get that “who cares” attitude out of here.

      We all care.

      Anyone who says it does not matter is a Russian bot for all I care.

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        Ignorance is bliss friend. At this point there isn’t much I can do but to protect mine and myself. We’re in a limbo period where folks aren’t mad enough to revolt, but are mad enough to be pissed off. We need to get a whole lot angrier before real action can happen. Holding up signs and being annoying isn’t going to affect real change with these people. So until the populace is at the angrier stage of things I don’t care to hear about all the illegal things the Trump admin does, I can’t possibly hate this guy more than I already do. All this info does is piss me off and ruin my day.

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          Five million Americans protested on April 5th.

          Maybe if people like you actually showed instead of burying your head in the sand we’d have the results you are craving.

          If you are on the side of Justice, your stance is the wrong one to take.

          Solidarity is the right way forward. Take a break when it gets to be too much, but you cannot tune out just because you are upset.

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            What has holding signs accomplished? These protests are doing nothing. Trump is more emboldened than ever. Keep holding your pretty little signs and affecting no change. This isn’t the civil rights movement. I sit until we have the ability to change any of this. Boycotting is the best I can offer next to bullets.

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              I can only assume you are all bots meant to discourage people from protesting, and others would be wise to report and call out these accounts.

              What does protesting even do?

              1. That’s five million Americans standing in solidarity.

              2. That’s five million Americans connecting, organizing, and sharing resources.

              3. That’s five million Americans not shopping or working that day.

              4. That’s five million Americans being inspired to run for office and support others who are.

              5. These protests are only going to get bigger and bigger as the word spreads.

              Join them, or STFU about how nobody is doing anything.

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                That’s the problem with people like you. You just assume someone that doesn’t agree with your ineffective BS isn’t a real person. Keep protesting if you want IDC, but don’t be deluded into believing that will amount to real change against people that want those like us dead. Fascists don’t respond to peaceful protesting. Boycotting is much more effective than hitting the streets with signs. These cretins only respond to monetary loss.

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                  Guess what?

                  Boycotting instructions and lists of MAGA businesses to avoid are spread at the protests.

                  Maybe you would know that if you actually attended one instead of being lambasted on the internet over your idiocy.

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    He has like 30 something felonies and openly admitted to rigging the voting computers. The man could commit murder on stage and still somehow continue being president.

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      Got a source? I remember him saying Elon was great at the voting computers but that’s not exactly the same thing.

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      He did? We have him on tape trying to get votes that didn’t exist, but haven’t heard much about voting computers being rigged.

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    And what will happen? Fuck all. And that’s why America is a fucking joke. If any of you on here did this it would be punishable. But you have someone as president who actually made himself go above the law…

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    There was definitely a rumor that caused a market spike two days ago until the white house immediately called it “fake news” which the media took at Trump’s word as they always so gullibly do. Well as it turns, out, this “fake news” got the duration of the pause right to the exact number of days.

    Now everyone seems to be pretending they don’t remember that this happened just two days ago and I just don’t get it. Shouldn’t somebody be asking why some random people on Twitter seemed to know Trump’s plans in advance?