“In my case, I like to take a nice shower to take care of my beautiful hair,” Trump said as he signed the executive order, which the White House said would apply to multiple household appliances, including toilets and sinks. “I have to stand under the shower for 15 minutes until it gets wet. It comes out drip, drip, drip. It’s ridiculous.”

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    I honestly cannot believe this is real. It seems legit but…

    It’s so fucking frivolous.

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      Only if you’re assuming benevolence on Trump’s part. What if we assume malice? Undermining a country’s water security is a big accomplishment.

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        You can put it in a glass of hot watter with couple of spoons of citric acid in it for 5 minutes and put it back, and it will be good again for a month or so

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      The actual pressure is determined by the height of the water tower in which the water is stored. There are regulations as to the minimum water pressure for safety reasons. I’m my area the minimum pressure is 50psi. The government, at least to this point, had pretty good regulations regarding pathogens and stuff so these rules apply, as others have suggested, to the flow and capacities of various plumbing fixtures.

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      Water regulations are all over the place when it comes to the different states. Sometime in the 90s ( I think it was then ) new regulations were put in place to reduce the maximum allowable water usage per flush of a toilet and the maximum allowed flow of gallons per minute for all plumbing fixtures.

      They were put in place to reduce water waste but many people Trumps age disagree with the regulations due to the effect - like he mentioned - of most showers being limited to x gpm and the perceived change in the resultant shower quality.

      Like most regulations manufacturers just make stuff that passes the most stringent requirments and sell them everywhere, so even if your state doesn’t require a 1.5gpm shower head you might only be able to buy 1.5gpm shower heads.

      I think this is what he’s trying to change anyway.

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        Interesting. I live in a place that often has drought but the regulations focus more on agricultural use, swimming pools and public uses like beach showers, fountains and so on. No one is regulating toilets and shower heads. I think it’s assumed that everyone gets the same water pressure and that’s it, no need to regulated it on a toilet level.

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    He signs an executive order to change things nationally when all he apparently needed was a plumber.

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      Unless I’m missing something, it was about flowrates in showers and sinks…

      Nothing about showers, he’s just rambling.

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    “No need to think about the market manipulation guys I’m getting you more water pressure” - Trump

    “It comes out drip, drip, drip. It’s ridiculous.”

    He thinks too much about his little pp.

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    This is one of those things I haven’t considered thoroughly for other regions. Where I live in Utah there are no water towers and water pressure is practically a fact of life.

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      Plus water line pressure has absolutely nothing to do with toilet flushing in residential toilets lol. That’s purely determined by the tank reservoir and outlet design.

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    I’m generally fine with removing water efficiency regulations. The government should be internalizing any externalities associated with water availability via the price of water, anyway, not mandating specific solutions, and if you do that then you’ve solved the problem. If people want to pay what it costs to obtain water for some use, that’s fine in my book, and that solves the problem, lets them incorporate their values. If you don’t want to be paying high water bills, then get water-efficient appliances. If you want to pay the cost of obtaining extra water because you want a longer shower or a lawn or a pool or whatever, knock yourself out. I’m fine with the government mandating water-efficiency labeling, so that people can make informed comparisons about how much a shower head or toilet or whatever uses, but it should be individuals making the value calls on where they want water usage to be.

    There are cases where there are legitimate emergencies, where the market has no time to respond, and you have to ration a good. Say that, oh, there’s a dam failure. Okay, sure. Then having regulations that restrict any non-essential water use is fine. But that’s a different scenario from the long-run stuff associated with water use efficiency on appliances.

    If you aren’t internalizing costs associated with water consumption into the price of water, then it’s not just that you aren’t just incorporating end-user usage preferences, you’re opening yourself to problems where people inefficiently use the limited resource in some other way that you haven’t accounted for.

    Given time, you can get more water — it’s just a function of how expensive it is to obtain, purify, and transport.

    • You can build more water transport infrastructure – California moves residential water across the whole state; it has rainforest in the north and desert in the south.

    • You can process sewage and recover water from that, make your water system a closed loop.

    • In many places, you can desalinate water from the ocean — San Diego, which is in the coastal desert, desalinates water for $3,400 per acre foot as of 2024. Looking online, depending upon water usage, a typical household might use somewhere between 1 and 0.25 acre-feet per year.

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      This guy is trying to make a long shower something only the wealthy can access.

      Counterpoint: limit water flow in shower heads and toilets to a reasonable amount in order to keep costs down for everyone.

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      That’s cool, for people who get a choice in the appliances and fittings in their houses. Fuck renters, I guess?

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        I was shooting heroin and reading “The Fountainhead” in the front seat of my privately owned police cruiser when a call came in. I put a quarter in the radio to activate it. It was the chief.

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        “Not yet. But mark my words: we’re going to figure out who did this and we’re going to take them down … provided someone pays us a fair market rate to do so.”

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        He turned. In his hand was a revolver that the Constitution said he had every right to own. He fired at me and missed. I pulled my own gun, put a quarter in it, and fired back. The bullet lodged in a U.S.P.S. mailbox less than a foot from his head. I shot the mailbox again, on purpose.

        “All right, all right!” the man yelled, throwing down his weapon. “I give up, cop! I confess: I took the bitcoins.”

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        He nodded, because he knew I was right. Then he swiped his credit card to pay me for arresting him.

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    In tonights news, “Authorities are left confused, as old man yells at, then attacks local windmills.”