• saimen@feddit.org
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    11 days ago

    Thats somehow so upside down philosophically. In human history we established states and gave them the monopoly of violence, so that we don’t crush each others heads all the time (at least inside the state) or so that some guy who is stronger or has better weapons can’t just take all our stuff because he wants to.

  • Tattorack@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    I’m not against violence as a solution. It just shouldn’t be the first solution you come up with, or the second… Or the third.

    Violence as a solution is a last resort.

  • Feathercrown@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    11 days ago

    Another strawman comic meant to express the author’s political opinions and nothing more. I should start collecting these, the 4 panel ones all have the same 4 panels

    • callouscomic@lemm.eeEnglish
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      11 days ago

      A comic meant to express the creators opinion? Wow?!?!?! That’s never happened before.

      • KRAW@linux.communityEnglish
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        11 days ago

        Yeah but comics are also supposed to be creative. This is a essentially a lemmy comment with illustration.

        • callouscomic@lemm.eeEnglish
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          10 days ago

          You might call that, I dunno, an illustrated commentary, or perhaps, a comic, of sorts.

  • AItoothbrush@lemmy.zipEnglish
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    11 days ago

    Even if youre acab, violence is the solution sometimes. This is a horrible argument against police. What do you do to nazis? You beat the shit out of them. See you solved the problem of a nazi being in your eyesight with violence. I myself am a fan of reformed police tho which is only used in cases like someone clearly not abiding by the law(not going to court, etc) and imvestigations(which is more like detectives and stuff not police)

        • Holyginz@lemmy.world
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          11 days ago

          Because she also drew some fury kink stuff as well. I don’t think that makes a difference as long as it isn’t part of any events or other stuff she does. But that’s not gonna stop the right from working themselves up. If there’s something else she’s done that I don’t know about that’s worse though please someone let me know.

          • zabadoh@ani.social
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            11 days ago

            There’s something wrong with furry kink?

            It’s not my thing, but my experience in person at scifi cons is that furries are some of the best people in fandom.

  • entwine413@lemm.ee
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    11 days ago

    Violence is often the solution, but it shouldn’t be the first solution we try.

    It’s stupid to assert that law enforcement should be completely unarmed. There’s absolutely legitimate situations where it’s in the public’s best interest. Now, the situations that do require it aren’t super common, but they exist.

    • AppleTea@lemmy.zip
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      11 days ago

      In the US at least, law enforcement is overarmed. We’d cut back on a lot of unnecessary violence if, say, officers kept their guns in the trunk rather than on their hip.

      • ouch@lemmy.world
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        11 days ago

        Or you could do what Finland does, and make an independent investigation every time the police shoots someone.

      • themoken@startrek.website
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        11 days ago

        Police Union: How could you trample on the sacred rights of the police to escalate any situation into multiple fatalities?

    • PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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      11 days ago

      So, a such a situation would require Special Weapons? And maybe Tactics?

      SWAT teams exist ostensibly for this reason, but arming everyone works too.

      • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        11 days ago

        That works a lot better in countries where everyone and their mom doesn’t have a gun. Though good god we don’t train cops enough to justify giving them a gun

    • state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de
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      10 days ago

      Violence is always the solution. If there’s an example for major changes implemented without at least an implicit threat of violence, that’s the absolute exception. All big changes always require (the threat of) violence.

  • Snowclone@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    I mean… I do assure police shouldn’t have weapons. They’re less likely to die at work than an Aborist.

  • SaltSong@startrek.websiteEnglish
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    11 days ago

    Violence is almost always the solution. Civilization is an effort to find a better solution. But people who reject the systems we’ve built up seem to forget why we built then.

    • ohulancutash@feddit.ukEnglish
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      11 days ago

      Civilisation is about pooling resources to make a consistent supply of beer and food. It makes no clear preference between violence and peace. Crops are easier to grow during peace, while war affords more land to grow crops. So the optimum strategy for a civilisation is to alternate between periods of peace and war.

      • SaltSong@startrek.websiteEnglish
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        11 days ago

        That’s not why we built them. They got hijacked for that, and they need fixing.

        They were built so we had an alternative to killing each other over disputes.

        • Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          11 days ago

          Then why are most “uncivilized” societies have more egalitarian and non-violent than “civilized” ones?

          And why has every civilization since the dawn of them been about using violence to uphold the status quo?

          The institutions aren’t broken. They’re working as designed.

          • argon@lemmy.today
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            11 days ago

            Then why are most “uncivilized” societies have more egalitarian and non-violent than “civilized” ones?

            Uncivilized societies engage in violence much more frequently than civilized societies.

            That’s the case for individual/personal violence, and also for institutional/mass violence.

            Civilized societies are better than uncivilized society in anything they do collectively, be it science, production, or murder.

            Since civilized societies are so much better at murdering, the few cases where mass murder does happen are much more significant.

            However, such cases remain an exception, as opposed to what is the case for uncivilized societies.

            Uncivilized societies may be harmless, but they are certainly not peaceful.

            Civilized societies are more powerful, but they yield their power much more carefully.

        • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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          11 days ago

          That’s not why we built them

          Isn’t it though? The police were created to hunting down escaped slaves. The government was set up to keep the wealthy land owners in charge (only they could vote afterall). Schools were created to meet the needs of growing industry.

          I’m struggling to find anything that was built specifically for the people and not the rich.

          • argon@lemmy.today
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            11 days ago

            The USA didn’t invent the concept of police or government.

            The first police were appointed to investigate and punish minor crimes commited agains civilians.

  • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org
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    10 days ago

    Can’t discuss a fascist away, but you can get rid of him by violent means. Violence is sometimes morally acceptable if not outright required even.