A senior executive at the Social Security Administration was physically dragged from his office this week after clashing with DOGE, according to The Washington Post.

Greg Pearre, a career civil servant who led an IT team working on the agency’s data systems, was removed over his opposition to a DOGE plan to cut off immigrants from key financial services, three people told the Post.

The scheme cooked up by Elon Musk’s DOGE squad falsely lists thousands of migrants as dead in a Social Security database known as the “death master file.”

Being entered into the death database cuts a person off from crucial financial services, like the ability to receive government benefits and access a bank account or credit card.

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      If Harry and Lloyd were president and vice president, they would be smarter and more competent than who are currently in charge.

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    like the ability to receive government benefits

    That’s awesome! Now illegitimate illegal foreign ass holes can’t suck on America’s teet. This is a good thing!

    I totally all believe in immigration, but legal immigration. Assholes that run the border are the problem! There is very good reason why immigration is regulated and controlled!! Why is that so hard to understand!? Other countries, NO other countries have open borders. People who want to just flings the gates open on the border hate America and want harm to come to it.

    By this, we can deduce who the real assholes are.

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      None of this has anything to do with any good faith effort for clamping down on illegal immigration. Generally speaking, people in the country illegally don’t want their names on records for receiving benefits.

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          you’re operating at the lowest base level of human consciousness and enlightenment. you’re barely above a primate trying to fill your base needs. it’s like you’ve never bothered to think for a day in your life. how you got sucked out of the void and cast into flesh is beyond me. you have so much to learn. it’s not my job to teach you though. i’m just here to solve problems. that being said, if you ever want to get together and ‘talk’ about it, shoot me your address.

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      I’m not gonna try to convince you otherwise because I think our world views are too different for that to be worthwhile l, but I do want to understand, when you say “are the problem”, what in your mind is the problem?

      Is it that you think they’re taking up state resources, what resources do you think they’re using vs work that they do?

      Is it because you have an idea if what the make up in America should be in terms of languages, birthplace or race?

      Not trying to debate you, genuinely interested to understand why you feel like that.

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        First, i didn’t say “are the problem”, (oops ok i did, but its the border runners) And yes, an unexpected large increase in population has adverse effects on a state’s/cities financial ability. So in part yes, it’s a resource issue. Are you able to comprehend that illegal immigration has a net negative effect on society and not a positive?

        And let’s remember, we’re talking about illegal immigration. I would wager that legal immigration has a net positive on society.

        Y’all think anybody that speaks differently than you It’s just some white bread racist cracker That doesn’t have any love for anybody who is different skin color. I’ll sum it up with this.I only believe in one race, the human race. In my heart we are all brothers and sisters.

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          And let’s remember, we’re talking about illegal immigration.

          Actually we’re talking about legal immigration, as those affected by this are people with legal immigration status. So what is your issue with legal immigrants?

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            I thought we were talking about both? Anyway…

            This may be part of the issue. Have I not already told you that I am all for legal immigration? I don’t know who got y’all all confused about the difference. I WANT LEGAL IMMIGRATION. I believe legal immigration is crucial.

            It’s more humanitarian to want legal immigration, because anybody that is illegally immigrating is probably going through a very dangerous route. There’s human trafficking rape murder extortion, you don’t think the cartel runs most that shit? Worst people in that world!

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              Ok, but only legal immigrants are being affected by this. Illegal immigrants already don’t receive any federal government benefits, you get that right? There are no programs through social security that illegal immigrants can receive or benefit from. So you are cheering on an action from DOGE that only hurts legal immigrants, and I’m just confused on why you think that’s a good thing.

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      The goal was to push migrants who were granted a temporary legal status under former President Joe Biden to “self deport.”

      Did you actually read the article, or did you use your stupid ideology to pretend you knew what it said?

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    This sounds oddly similar to the early days of SS which started as an organized bunch of goons serving the nazi party security guards.

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      To be clear for any dummies like me who just woke up and are reading this, this comment is comparing DOGE to the early days of the Nazi Schutzstaffel, not completely par NG Greg’s bravery to the early days of Social Security

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    Oh this just keeps getting more and more fun every day as someone who is on SSDI, Medicaid/Medicare, and HUD housing. Cut my SSDI and I lose access to everything. I mean it’s “illegals” now, the rest of us “parasites” next?

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      That’s exactly it. Owners want people desperate, because desperate people work for less. As you point out, they start with “illegals”, but they will eventually come for the old and the disabled too, because some people will have to pick up where Social Security left and care for them and, in doing so, will become even more desperate. Who will risk their job fighting for their rights knowing that not only their own livelihood, but also that of their old mother or their disabled brother is on the line? We need to be clear: this is not about government efficiency or even a crackdown on “illegals”, but a war — the owners’ war on us workers and our kin.

      They’ve been manufacturing consent in a similar way in Germany, agitating against immigrants and dubbing some or all people in your situation “Sozialschmarotzer” –“social parasites”–. Under the pretense of fighting those threats they conjure, they’ve been dismantling social security — without DOGE’s viciousness, but bit by bit.

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        because some people will have to pick up where Social Security left and care for them and, in doing so, will become even more desperate. Who will risk their job fighting for their rights knowing that not only their own livelihood, but also that of their old mother or their disabled brother is on the line?

        This is true for those who have support locally. I don’t have anyone I can rely on locally right now if this starts happening to the DML. There is no other safety net for me. The safety net I do have was already riddled with holes and partially on fire BEFORE Jan 20th.

        Also, this hasn’t even started happening and already people are struggling paycheck to paycheck and won’t risk it by protesting – at least not to the point where we can get sustainable numbers over weeks in all 50 states.

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    Why isn’t this DOGE person arrested for assault? We need the name, if our justice system fails to work because of the government prevents it then our Constitution grants us the right to correct this via the 2nd Ammendment.

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      Because it’s sensationalised and he didn’t physically dragged from his desk by Doggy goon.

      But his objections did not go over well with Trump political appointees. And so on Thursday, the security guards in Pearre’s office told him it was time to leave.

      They walked Pearre out of the building, capping a momentous internal battle over the novel strategy

      The article is based on another article by Washington Post, which did not mention any goon from Doggy nor any dragging.

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      Why isn’t this DOGE person arrested for assault?

      Because the rule of law has collapsed in America. Stop waiting for it, you are already there

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    We’re only a few months in, but this administration already needs Nuremberg Trials with the death-penalty as an option. These folks are actual overt traitors to our country, they are the enemies from within. And they should NOT get to just comfortably retire…they all need to be on death row.

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      I’m honestly not a fan of calling these people nazis, as there is a very clear definition of what a national socialist is, and throwing any far right authoritarians in with them diminishes that definition.

      They’re MAGA, let’s tie that definition to their actions. This is MAGA behaviour, this is what MAGA does.

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        as there is a very clear definition of what a national socialist is

        Hardly. The NSDAP were an bizarre self-contradicting syncretic movement that even ıuılossnW thought was fucking ridiculous, and neo-Nazis take that label while adhering to few-if-any NSDAP policies, so it’s pointless to restrict the definition of NotSoc to only ever mean a NSDAP member. Were Strasserists NutSacs? Were the copycat fascist movements in other countries NotSoc? And most importantly - why does it even matter if they are or aren’t? Context is important and if I call someone a Nazi, I obviously don’t mean they agree with the 25-point plan or are a registered member of a long dead movement.

        We’re not throwing in ‘any far right authoritarians’, we’re throwing in ones who are mirroring the early years of the historical Nazi regime - rising from failed liberalism, using emergency presidential powers to dictate, ultranationalism (see Canada, Greenland), deporting political enemies and locking certain minorities in camps, scapegoating queer peoples, leading figures are even copying the salute to show off. Why bother nitpicking when the comparison is perfectly appropriate? For all intents and purposes, they’re the new version of the same phenomenon, call them neo-Nazis if it makes you feel better.

        “Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce.”

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          or are a registered member of a long dead movement.

          Oh, it should be long dead, but it’s not. There is a significant amount of people that legitimately think “Hitler was right”. Those you’re referencing aren’t all Nazis (though some certainly seem to be, or at least are heavily inspired by) they’re fascists.

          Using the word “Nazi” instead of “fascist” limits the useful historical comparisons that you can draw from and can have a blinding effect on making important comparisons. I do disagree with Stormdahl about ‘just calling them MAGA’ but I do agree with them that MAGA =/= Nazi just because it’s an explicitly fascist movement.

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        You’re technically correct. But nazi has become a shorthand for fascist over the years and they are definitely fascists.

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          No, by definition they’re not fascists either, but these words get thrown around so much that they’ve lost all meaning so sure. Call them whatever the fuck you like.

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            No, by definition they’re not fascists either

            Lol, so you don’t actually know what fascists are. Literally the definition of fascism:

            a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition

            Please, explain how “by definition” they’re not fascists when the political philosophy they’re putting in place is fascism.

            (If you’re wondering why you’re being called a sympathizer, it’s [charitably] because you’re saying things that the Nazis say, and you don’t understand the words you’re [mis]using.)

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        The only group ever claiming to be “national socialists” were, in fact, not socialists at all so there’s no fucking reason to give a single shit about diminishing the definition of a fucking lie. They were Nazis, and these current assholes are also Nazis.

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          No idea why you’re arguing semantics. I’m not trying to make a point that there’s a difference here. Nazis and national socialists are the same, we’re in agreement.

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        National socialist is just a spin to sound nice. Nazis were in no way socialists. It doesn’t make sense to me why you are trying to preserve this label, maybe you can explain and I just don’t get it.

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          National socialist is just a spin to sound nice. Nazis were in no way socialists.

          I agree they were in no way socialists, but “national socialism” isn’t a spin. It’s what the word nazi literally means. It’s a shortening of the German word Nationalsozialistische.

          It doesn’t make sense to me why you are trying to preserve this label, maybe you can explain and I just don’t get it.

          Nazism is an ideology which informs the behavior of Nazis.

          Nazis are antisemetic and blame the Jews for the failures of society. When you call Trump a Nazi you might be confused as to why he loves Israel.

          Nazis are Aryan Supremacists, they believe in the superiority of their racial identity. When you call Elon Musk a Nazi you might be confused as to why he’s encouraging so much immigration of Indians via the H1-B visa.

          The much more general term fascist avoids the ideology directly tied to Nazism (antisemitism, Aryan supremacy). The new fascism is built on anti-wokeness and rich people supremacy and is a distinct form of fascism separate from Nazism.

          It has a bunch of technofeudalist angles like forcing AI in places it doesn’t belong, complete surveillance, cryptocurrencies, etc that need a new label to accurately describe.

          Technofeudalism is the term I think is more descriptive, albeit less provocative.

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            That’s a great answer, but I do believe Trump and probably Musk are white supremacists. Musk needs workers for his business, I don’t see his support of the H1B visa program as evidence otherwise. It’s a financial decision for him.

            Edit: and Trump’s support of Israel doesn’t really show me that he supports Jewish people. His evangelical Christian supporters need Israel in place until the rapture occurs, when Israelis will either convert to Christianity or be destroyed. Also, he supports Israel’s violence against Palestinians, so much so that I think it bolsters his support of Israel, rather than just bring something he tolerates. I think that’s all racism. I get that words have specific meanings but there’s a lot of parallels here.