• RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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      ACAB gonna do what ACAB does. Back in the day if a crime was committed the cops would go into a minority neighborhood from which a suspected criminal was from and just arrest someone. “They were guilty of something…” Didn’t matter if they were or not. Just arrest them anyway.

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      also dont want to scare off too many “illegal immigrants” that are being employed by red states that sustains thier economy too.

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    Can somebody shoot the ICE agents already? Your stupid guns are all show. No difference whether you have any at all…

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      Most people left-of-center in the US are too afraid to touch a gun. Meanwhile the far-right collect guns like trophies.

      Guns mean nothing if the “good guys” continue having their fantasy of non-violence.

      Edit: And while there might be individuals left-of-center who do have guns, it doesn’t acomplish anything unless we have a lot of them also collectively take up arms to defend against tyranny, as in an organized militia.

      There are currently more right-wing militias than any left-wing ones.

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        Most people left-of-center in the US are too afraid to touch a gun.

        The number of left of center people in the gun license course I took last year indicate that that may be changing.

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          Even with increasing gun control in Canada many Canadians are wanting to get armed. Also many Canadians disagree with thr brazen and sweeping bans on so many rifles.

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            And many Canadians are still for the ban and against civilians arming themselves. We are not the US, we are one of the safest place on earth. If people want to defend the country against outside threat then they should join the army where they’ll have a bigger impact.

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      I’ve personally heard a few people say that’s exactly their plan. It’s basically “I’m a citizen but I’m brown so I’m fucked either way. I might as well make em work for it since the end result for me will be the same regardless. If I’m gonna get taken down, I might as well make it worth it. Why wait to die in an El Salvadorian prison, when I can go out where it’ll at least make some headlines?”

      Again, I have heard several people say things like this individually. I fully believe it’ll happen eventually, as soon as they try to stop the wrong person.

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      The problem is that the wrong people have guns in the US. Most of the left ignorantly believes that they can get by without, when half the country is armed and is practically begging their god emperor to say the word.

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    Both the American and El Salvadoran heads of state have stated that neither is able to return people sent from the US to CECOT.

    In other words, this man will die in CECOT.

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      Trump has the “excuse” of having to depend on El Salvador for this but there’s no way Bukele has no control over their prison system. This is the same guy that had the weight to “sanitize” El Salvador of criminals, i’m sure there’s nothing within El Salvador’s borders this guy can’t control.

      In other words, this man will die in CECOT.

      This guy is likely already dead, which would also be the only somewhat logical explanation as to why Nayib can’t return him.

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      That sends a chill down my spine. If neither heads of state can return the people, that can only mean that they’re already dead.

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    Well Trump essentially made it official yesterday that even if someone is imprisoned by mistake it will not be reversed

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      And if you are someone he doesn’t like, for your views, your skin color, your accent, your sexual orientation, your gender, your education, your occupation, your ethnicity, the way you look at him, or how you don’t fawn over him enough or fall behind with your protection payments, he’ll have you “accidentally” kidnapped and imprisoned for life or until the Salvadoran authorities decide you’re a waste of resources and kill you.

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        Bottom line: if youbwetent born here, youre getting thrown out, and NOTHING will stop them, including a Green Card or Naturalization.

        Eventually, it won’t even matter if you were born here, and are a full natural American-born citizen, from generations of American-born citizens. If they don’t like you, you’re gone.

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          This is why he’s selling those dipshit citizenship gold Visa’s. He gets your money and he’ll still just send you to El Salvador.

          Of course, realize that being a natural born us citizen isn’t going to stop them at some point. When they have eliminated whomever they deem a problem, it won’t be missing accomplished, it will just be time to modify the parameters of who a problem person is

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    Just like El Salvador there’s going to be some casualties while cleaning this situation up that the Biden administration created. Now I’m not supporting it I’m just saying that what they Are trying to accomplish will have casualties. For example El Salvador is a way safer country and the safest country on the western hemisphere now, it used to be the worst. Bukele Arrested a lot of of gang members but while doing those arrest he also arrested a good amount of innocent people, But as I stated in these type of cases they’re always will be casualties but that’s the price to pay for security sometimes. If the Biden administration had done Their job correctly Laken Riley would be alive today

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      Do you know what happens to the “casualties” that are rounded up as well?

      Their trust in the government is broken, and at the same time they will be exposed to the true criminals and gang members, who will tell them that this is exactly why you need a gang, to protect yourself from the government.

      And so the radicalization starts.

      When innocent people starts having to protect themselves from the government instead of the government protecting the innocent, then you have a BIG problem.

      El Salvador might be safer now than before, sure, but if they only focus on punnishments, it is doomed to fail.

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        Fair enough I respect your opinion, And I think this is how people should go about having conversation conversations on these type of websites instead of resorting to name calling each other. But it is true that I have read that it will be hard to sustain something like this longevity. But only time can tell and truthfully I’m only speaking about the criminals in El Salvador from El Salvador that are in that jail I’m not talking about the illegal Venezuelan that were deported. This place has been Heaven sent for the people of El Salvador. I know personally because my father is from there I have dual citizenship from that country I travel there a lot and trust me the country did a complete 180

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        See that’s the problem with liberals, Someone says something trying to have a conversation not criticizing anyone, I even mentioned that I don’t support it. I didn’t call anyone names, I didn’t call anyone anything. You don’t know me from a hole in the wall, I’m from Massachusetts one of the most liberal states my family comes from El Salvador so I understand the situation a little better than you. But you lunatic liberals the first thing you do when you can’t have a conversation is you call someone a fascist. Learn to have a conversation Because clearly you’re not intellectual whatsoever. You read something and the first thing you do is you call someone names when you don’t even know the person. Now if I was saying what he did is beautiful and amazing and this is exactly what they should be doing then you could probably call me that but I didn’t even say that. Now I’m gonna stoop down to your level and I’m gonna call you a fucking clown

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    According to the original article, he was here legally waiting until their court date in 2027 to see a judge. He is not a US citizen, but he also is not an “illegal alien.”

    No alleged history of crime. No crime in process when detained. Was following the immigration process.

    If anyone wants to argue with you about others who have been detained and deported as being “criminals” or “illegals,” this should be evidence to the fact that it isn’t true and ICE doesn’t care. We’re in the slippery slope now.

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    Someone correct me if I’m wrong but I believe 100% of these kidnappins have happened in states with tight firarm control laws.

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      Ok so based on United States Disappeared Tracker, which sadly is a thing that exists in this country. It’s far from 100%. But the the numbers do skew a bit towards blue states. Massachusetts in particular has had nearly 400 people taken at the time of this writing. In any case, keep your loved ones close.

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    Are American law enforcement just reading Nazi history and emulating it at this point?

    “Oh yeah, they did this in 1942 so we should do that too!! … Kristallnacht? … oh yeah, we gotta do that one too! … and book burnings and maybe a giant parade or a mass rally with flags and shit”

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    Forcibly remove first, ask questions later is going to soon end up kidnapping random people out of the country…

    Conservative excuses and goalposts will adapt as we go along:

    • but look, he was supposed to be deported anyway (Abrego Garcia)
    • doesn’t matter that he has a valid asylum case, he came here illegally so he should be kicked out (Gutiérrez)
    • If you don’t want to support America, you shouldn’t have a green card (Mahdawi)
    • he looks like he came from out of the country and he helps illegal migrants anyway, too bad he’s a US citizen
    • these were people spewing violent rhetoric about Trump and America, take them out of the country if they don’t want to be here
    • hey wait, this is a mistake!? (future kidnapped Conservative)
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    Lol, the “fairness meter” says unfair left leaning. The article is literally just stating what occurred. ❄️

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    I wonder how long until someone in Trump’s circle suggests they have people wearing symbols on their shirts so they can’t make these mistakes anymore?

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    Wilmer Gutiérrez last spoke to his son on March 16 during a brief call allowed by police. He had spent days searching for information, visiting police stations and courthouses, only to be told there was no record of his son.