• AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    3 days ago

    You could just hop back through time doing this, and no one could ever catch you at the end because you hadn’t even committed those crimes yet

  • Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net
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    3 days ago

    Reagan was a fucking actor that was reading lines, shooting him would have done nothing. They’d just find a new electable moron to read the party’s script.

  • Wilco@lemm.eeEnglish
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    4 days ago

    It is so strange. After the Republicans turned a depression into the Great Depression with tariffs and then Watergate, it seemed like they were no longer relevant. Then Reagan came along, and was an extremely liberal conservative. Reagan “invented” the no fault divorce so that couples would no longer have to sue each other and declare one of them at fault. The republican party should have went extinct at Bush Episode 1… “read my lips, no new taxes” (he lied and was a one term president because of it).

    Then Bush Episode 2, who was a complete idiot … then Trump. Why? How can this stupid corrupt party still be relevant?

    • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      Reagan wasn’t Liberal by any stretch. He was economically Libertarian except for when he tariffed nations like Japan and he promoted gun control when the black panthers started making headlines.

    • Bouzou@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      Religion. They are the “Christian party.”

      I mean, literally none of their actions reflect the teachings of Christ, but culturally they have entrenched themselves as the only religion Christians can choose (at least, from the view of many Christians).

      • Wilco@lemm.eeEnglish
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        3 days ago

        I’m not very religious … and most “conservatives” are a bit to unchristian and evil for my taste. A greedy drug fueled billionaire with 13+ kids by who-knows-how-many mother’s should not be relevant in “conservative” politics, but there he is. We will not discuss how/why they tolerate Trump … that makes even less sense.

        They aren’t conservative, they are fascist.

        • Bouzou@lemmy.world
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          2 days ago

          Truly. Trump and his ilk are like if you made the antithesis of Christ’s teachings in lab…

  • shawn1122@lemm.eeEnglish
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    4 days ago

    You would need to target Jude Wanniski (conservative economist). Reagan wasn’t the one who came up with supply side economics though he was an effective face of the message, reviving the Republican Party from its loss of credibility due to Nixon.

    Part of it is just unbridled American level greed though. America has a good thing going post WW2, having horded 80% of the worlds gold supply by selling weapons to allies and staying out of the war until instigated by Japan in '41.

    Also had a good thing going with the New Deal which helped pull the economy out of the great depression and bolstered / introduced many of the public services that are still in use today.

    But no, dangle some marginal tax cuts in front of common folk who have the best standard of living in the world and apparently they’ll vote for acceleration toward end stage capitalism.

    • Dragonstaff@leminal.spaceEnglish
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      4 days ago

      Conservative policies need a (🤢) charismatic celebrity to connect with people and convince them to vote to destroy the country. DeSantis could never be this effective.

      I have no idea how Trump, of all people, is so charismatic, but I’m not a racist.

    • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      TBF if security were more lax and Trump’s Itinerary were more accessible then we might be talking. Looking up all the places and times Reagan was is trivial.

      Though I suppose you could travel forwards and then backwards but I think the hypothetical implies we don’t have a time machine to use against the present tyrant?

    • TheFogan@programming.devEnglish
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      4 days ago

      Well I mean a lot could… George H Bush failed to be popular enough for re-election, so really it’s a total shift in everything, and possibly effectiveness of what gets implimented.

        • Rhaedas@fedia.io
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          4 days ago

          And the response was that we should really fix this messed up voting system we have.

      • samus12345@lemm.eeEnglish
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        4 days ago

        I suppose it also depends on when Reagan gets offed. 1981 would be a lot different than 1988.

        Of course, the smart move is to assassinate the person BEFORE they’re in a position of power.

        • TheFogan@programming.devEnglish
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          4 days ago

          Agreed, even with a time machine… secret service would make it quite difficult. Obviously the morality of killing baby hitler is always a thing.

          Really though more morally though you probably could prevent most politicians from being politicians non lethally. Break into the hospital, swap him with another baby. It’s a combination of nature and nurture so… if you change the upbringing, he probably won’t wind up president.

          • samus12345@lemm.eeEnglish
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            4 days ago

            One suggestion I’ve seen regarding Hitler is getting him when he was a runner in WWI. Nobody would question another casualty.

            As far as modern evil people go, making sure that baby in a hospital in Queens in 1946 doesn’t go to a rich family would almost certainly prevent a lot of future suffering. He’s a born narcissist and would always be an asshole, but without rich parents propping him up he likely wouldn’t have gone anywhere of note. He’s not nearly smart enough to have made it on his own.