Curious what others have found when transitioning to a vaporizer. Been a flower bong smoker for 3 ish years and the hockers got to be too much.
Got the arizer xq2 yesterday and have been enjoying the lack of black phlegm but the high is much headdier as opposed to body of the traditional bong.
Vapor sneaks up on you lol, being able to blow it directly in with the fan is nice too. Haven’t fucked with the bags yet as it seems a little much. Been treating lungs as the bags with that fan honestly
What were your experiences/thoughts when going to a vape?
I’m a lightweight and not a frequent user. My goal in smoking is to get high.
I rarely used my previous vape because it got me barely any effects, at 200°C it sometimes wasted entire chamber of weed for what gave me a mild headache.
So, following the advice in this forum, I got a new one and a grinder. A modern one. A recommended one. TinyMight 2.
Tried it 2 times so far and maybe that’s what you mean by “head high”, for me it’s all the side effects of smoking, but I don’t actually get high. Doesn’t take the edge off, or make me giggle, or deeply relaxed, or make me think, just hungry and balance was a bit off. And I think I used it correctly, the cloud was mighty both times.
Sorry to hear your step back into the vape journey isnt starting off hot. Everyone is different some people are into vapes some prefer to stick with combustion that’s why I try to recommend cheaper vapes when people ask so they aren’t out hundreds of $ if its not for them.
For me vaping its a creeping high. The more you sesh back to back the more you feel it in the eyes and the relaxation. Instead of one or two bowls sesh it out over an hour and like six bowls to see how it creeps. Setting also matters a lot. I find that walking or basking in sunlight and bird watching in early morning really adds to the meditative relaxing affects compared to sitting in a room.
Theres a general consensus that a low temp vape sesh hits different than high temp One Hit Extraction sessions. Turn your vaporizer up to its highest setting or around 420-430f and see if that hits and different than seshing around 380f. Does your abv look light brown or pitch black? Thats how you know.
I’m hesitant to recommend another vape since your first few havent worked out. If you still interested, maybe try a dynavap next. With a torch or IH you can ride the line between ABV and ash to get the most combustion-like vapor possible without actually smoking. If a back to back OHE sesh with a dynavap tip turning your bud pitch black in one breath is still not doing much for you, I dont think much will. At least you can use it like a fancy combustion dugout. The dynavaps are a big improvement over fake cigarette dugout pipes even if you just want to smoke out of them.
Keep in mind the high you get from smoking is different because of the carcinogens and carbon dioxide inhalation. You can get similar affects holding in your breath and depriving yourself of oxygen. Dry herb vapor evaporates the terps and all the cannabanoid/hash oil in the plant while leaving all the plant matter carbon behind. Do you get similar heady highs from dabbing concentrate too? Its basically the same difference on a micro level.
An aliexpress ball vape is better and cheaper than a volcano, I really didn’t like the volcano, fwiw I didn’t like the arizer tower either.
The mighty+ and crafty are good for portable but they’ve got a battery that’ll eventually die, I’d prefer replaceable 18650s. Even cheap portable vapes seem to do the trick.
Ultimately vapes are the healthier choice. I do miss bongs, they’re quick and I get to breathe smoke like a fucking dragon, but smoke does more damage to your lungs, no questions about it.
Coming up on 7 years now on my Mighty and I did one battery replacement on it so far which took about an hour of work. I’m very happy with the vapor quality and notice a big difference comparing it against other vapes I’ve used ( pax 1, pax 2, dynavap m 2017/2022, boundless cf, and a few others). A friend has a Venty and it seems pretty nice too, but I like the flatter form factor of the mighty for better pocket fit.
I feel the other way around. I’ve used the mighty before but I hated it. It’s double the size of my pax and seemingly lasts half as long.
Really would like to transition, but a volcano is still 300-350 euro in my country. I know it’s a premium vape but yeah I would like to use this bad boy atleast a few years.
If any fellow toker can recommend a good cheaper alts, then that would be appreciated.
Invest in a ball vape before a volcano. I got a knockoff terp hammer from b2cvape on aliexpress.
I’ve owned a volcano for over a decade. Aside from the novelty at parties, it doesn’t get used. I don’t think I’ve even gotten it out in 4-5 years.
Did you go back to smoking, or a different vape? I know some ppl that only consume through vaping (Volcano) so I still think it’s viable, but then again I don’t own one.
Certainly viable. It’s a taste/preference issue. Everything tastes slightly of overcooked popcorn, and it’s a bit of a hassle to set up just for one person (though I think I’ve seen individual size ‘bowls’ for it recently).
Maybe borrow one from a friend to see if you really like it before spending that much.
I went back to water filtered.
Sure im happy to help you out.
Arizer vtower is a good budget desktop vape similar in form to volcano though obviously not comparable beyond basic shape and some functions. You can get it on sale around 90$USD. Go a little more for arizer EQs to get blower motor for balloons, kind of gimmicky in my experience.
Dynavap is a non-electronic dry herb vape with good entry level options. Their cheapest model is 40$. You can heat it with lighter, torch, or induction heater. The all metal ones will probably last you a lifetime.
Vaphit is Chinese knockoff dynavap you can get from vape sellers like vgoodiez. They make cheap all glass stuff heated with torch and a knockoff metal m for like 20-30$.
Arizer seems like a good midpoint then. If both u and OP recommend it. Arizer xq2 is around €200 here. I feel like the real cheap vapes are marketed as a vape, but are just a heating coil that still causes combustion. I once had the Snoop Dogg G-pen or something. €30 and that sucker was just a fancy electric smoking pen instead of vape.
It all depends on if you can control the temp. All powerful desktops and ball vapes can all combust if you set temps too high, the eq can go up to 500f easy. sometimes high temps are good for concentrate. For flower its up to user to dial in and stay within reasonable limits (395-420f) if you push that its on you.
If you wnt a terp chaser that never combust even on highest temp the arizer portables is where its at.
I use CBD/CBG (read: hemp) for pain and stress management (it even helped me quit smoking cigarettes): Lately I’ve been using a Dynavap and a S&B Mighty+ but I’ve been taking advantage of DHV/TEDs off and on since the turn of the millennium.
I started with a shitty globe, then an MFLB (outdated now), eventually landing on an S&B Mighty+ (easy to use, but overpriced) and Dynavaps (hard to use but after a learning curve, they are excellent inexpensive devices).
If you are looking for a good portable, I’d definitely recommend Arizer (Solo 3 V2 if you want something powerful, Argo if you want something compact), Dynavap (if you don’t mind a learning curve, any are good, but if you want something to use with water pipes and whatnot, get a BB3, 6, or 9 or Vong).
If you are looking for good desktops, ball vapes are pretty much the best. There’s also the S&B Volcano Hybrid which is pretty good and easy to use, but very very expensive for what it is. I also have an Arizer Vtower (good bang for your buck) and an S&B Plenty (I find it ridiculous, but I think it is more geared for recreational marijuana users in a group who are going to go through a lot of it at once).
You can also use the resin that builds up in the stems as well as the vaped hemp or marijuana to make drinks, food, tinctures, etc. If you’re a a THC user, be careful about how much you consume here because stuff like stem milk can be very potent.
Personally, I stick to the non-intoxicating stuff for a few different reasons, but CBD/CBG absolutely kicks the shit out of advil for pain and I no longer need antidepressants for anxiety.
Cbg is great for migraines. I work with kids with disabilities (lots of lifting and moving) so i feel safer using cbg instead of prescription meds (that make me spacey/clumsy) when I’m at work.
I love my xq2, been a few years since i switched from bongs and it awesome. The highs are cleaner, and the flavour is amazing and my lungs are 1000% better now i dont smoke anything at all.
Edited to add i use the whip exclusively, but my buddy uses only the bags! its cool both options are legit.
I also just bought a XQ2 and I love it! I switched to vape pens a couple years ago because regular flower was too harsh on my lungs and I couldn’t hike up mountains. I’m enjoying dry vaping immensely… it’s like rediscovering my love for reefer. So much better than pens and without the pen headaches. The high somehow lasts longer with dry vaping and I don’t get headaches. It feels great on my muscles, too.
Are you looking for a portable unit? I bought the XQ2 and the POTV Lobo (planet of the vapes) at the same time. The Lobo has really impressed me so far. It’s the only battery unit I’ve seen that has replaceable batteries, which is huge. The high isn’t quite as nice as the XQ2, but it’s comparable.
The Vapor Genie is hands down my favorite Vape device (but anything volcano makes is amazing too)
I hate how they stole the word “vape” from us.
So what temperatures are y’all using?
I miss combustion bongs so I run hot. 210c on the mighty+, 700f on the ball vape.
I throw a bunch of vape balls on the core and turn it up to max
CBD/hemp guy there but this applies to cannabis as well: I stick to below 350F because above that, nasty stuff starts to get released. After that, I use the ABV and resin to make pain killer edibles, drinks, etc. that beat most OTC painkillers and are far safer.
What do you like to make? The best edibles I’ve made were sour candy mouth sprays. Delicious, fun, hits quicker. The worst was an attempt at butter mints. Weirdest was peanut butter cups that accidentally got a sprinkle of cayenne.
Mostly baked goods but I’d like to branch out more into other stuff. Maybe if cannabis gets legalized federally I’ll even start with recreational stuff.
Coconut oil seems pretty effective, but butter works too. I use a crock pot to diffuse it.
For stem milk, usually just hot chocolate, mocha, or tea.
I usually do an everclear wash, evaporate, decarb, and then just stir in a little coconut oil to make it easier to measure.
Are you in the US? It’s legal to buy online in all but a few states. Check out wnc-cbd.com for flower.
I usually go 180, 185, 195, 210 (up to 230 on the Volcano) all °C.
At 230 c you might as well put it in a bowl and smoke it because at that temp that is with you’re doing.
I’ve got a Mighty I got a few years back, and it’s great. Smell is way better and it’s easier to travel and use without drawing attention. It’s certainly better for making your flower stretch longer.
Same. I got the Mighty+ in 2021 and it’s still going strong!
Yep. Love my Mighty+. Loaned my Crafty+ to a friend.
I was going to buy the Mighty+, but ended going with the POTV Lobo because it has replaceable batteries. I did a double take when I found out that the Mighty doesn’t have replaceable batteries. I assumed a device that goes through batteries this fast just must be replaceable. Capitalism strikes again.
The replacement batteries for the Lobo are $10 so I bought two extra.
Replaceable batteries would be nice. I can get probably 6+ sessions at 190°c before needing a charge, but it also has charge pass through, so I can use it while charging. If I had USB C like the Mighty+, I’d be able to to it off with a portable battery pack.
For me, I don’t think I’ve been without power for long enough where it’s been I problem, but I have planned poorly before.
If you want hot swappable batteries, check out the Tinymight or Arizer Argo (Davinci IQ has one too, but they are a horrible, horrible company).
You could also try a Dynavap with an induction coil (YLL2 and iSpire Wand are both good, I prefer the YLL2) as those also take 18650s.
I’ve got a tinymight and love it. I haven’t used it for a while because gummies are so much easier to use. But I fucking LOVE that first low-temp green hit.
That’s what I love about my Dynavaps.
Yeah, a little bit of a bummer you have to crack it open to replace the bats on the Mighty, but you can do it. There’s lots of how-to’s online. After using mine daily for over a year though my batteries are still doing well.
I watched that video about replacing the batteries before I switched to the Lobo. I just don’t trust my abilities enough to try it. I applaud people who have the necessary skills to swap them out, though. I’m sure it’s easier than I think it is.
S&B will replace them for you too, just has a cost associated with it.
I’ve had two Solo2s. One broke and I lost one on a night out (along with my phone)
Got a Solo3 replacement and now I use the bigger bowled stems which are just the best thing.
The Solo3 is better than the Solo2, but the price is much higher so I’m not sure it’s worth it (here in the UK you can get 2xSolo2 for the price of a Solo3.
Since I started vaping I hardly ever smoke (unless at a party somewhere)
Took me almost 2 years. But I’m so glad I did.
Hardest part was getting rid off the hobby of rolling a joint, and embracing the fact that I actually hated the taste, smell and high of Tabacco/ Nicotine.
Also took me 5 more years to figure out what huge role temperature plays in the resulting high.
Recent convert to dry herb vaping. I’m higher longer and I don’t cough anymore. I smoked an 8th in a weed instead of my usual ounce. It’s the way.
glad to hear everything working out for you so far bizzle 🙂
I smoked for over a decade. As a teenager I tried pax and arizer eq but I didn’t really understand it. As an adult my first vaporizer was the arizer air max. I got it to substitute a travel dugout. Hated smoking through those fake cigarettes constant butante and pull through scooby snack inhalation.
The air max is a great terp chasing device with nice features but its not powerful and the glass stem filters with four little holes sucks. I just got a steel screen mesh stem from eds this week for 420 been wanting one for over a year.
I really liked the air max and quit smoking soo after, but it always left me feeling like there could be more. Thats when I remembered someone left their old crap in my house when they moved. Two desktop arizer EQs were just waiting to be used.
The desktop EQs were a step up. But I was never really happy with elbow packing, or the huge cyclone/connesuir bowls, or the bags. I just wasnt satisfied with stock EQ experience. Had to buy aftermarket parts from ddave and some vapes balls and some good glass to complete the arizer desktop experience.
I also got into the dynavap stuff. I needed something more powerful than the air max that could OHE. The m+ and induction heater was such a good intro to the dynaverse and since then I got some other Dyna stems to try out.
The hockers??
Loogies.
