I wish, but that’s the opposite of the goal of the democratic party. They don’t see themselves as the opposition to the Republican party. Only priorities are maintaining the status quo and getting funding. That does tend to be better for us than the alternative, but any downstream benefits are mostly a happy accident.
Smells like fucking Tankie in here.
Let’s see, so if democrats can’t get their way, they should just burn everything down so that they, and everyone, will be on the same equally shitty footing? That tracks.
They could have at least fulfilled original student loan promises at a minimum.
No, they should force the GOP to act by doing the one thing that will make them: trying to enact their own policies.
If we manage to have another presidential election, I will be behind any progressive or Democrat that promises to use the presidency in the exact way as Trump.
We’re due for some public executions
Forcing an rewritten version of the Constitution that eliminates flaws and loopholes, enacting term and age limits on all elected offices and the judiciary, deleting the electoral college, and so forth?
I am in.
The US needs a proportional voting system first and foremost
Yeaaaaahhhh… that tracks, democrats willing to burn everything down and ruin it for everyone if they don’t get their way…
Ruin what now?
Democrats are centrist liberals. They are capitalists. They are cop-loving authoritarians. They will never fulfill your leftist liberatory desires. Stop deferring your political will to wishes they will never manifest. You have Stockholm Syndrome. Go do something yourself that matters to you in your own community.
Well said, I’m still going to post my opinions but there’s really nothing you’ve said that I can refute.
I should probably add: I don’t mean to be a dick. I say all this stuff because I care, I hate seeing comrades efforts and dreams and desires frustrated by this deadend political party year after year, election after election. I imagine if all the passion we drained into the DNC instead went into creative modes of organization and direct action in our own towns and cities?
Dems would have to oppose fascism first. Good luck with that.
Pandora’s box is opened, and once that happens, it’s almost impossible to close it. I’m going to be honest, the next election cycle, I’ll consider voting for the blue equivalent of Trump. Now that we know presidents can act like kings, it’s time progressives capitalized on that. Why not lock up rightwingers and hatemongers, slap tariffs on oil, and deport Zionists?
Presidents can act like kings if they have the Legislative and Judicial branches in their pocket. No progressive ever will.
Have you met democrats?
This is how it looks like:
Biden: “I need y’all to execute the traitor Donald J. Trump”
Military: “I’m sorry Mr. President, I’m afraid we cannot do that.”
Trump: “I need y’all to round up these democrat [n-word] thugs”
Military: “Can we just shoot them?”
Presidential immunity gives a democratic incumbent the right to slap a republican senator daily
They would need to grow spines first.
He should gone full Sith AFTER the election and executed the J6 traitors, Turd, Couch-fucker, Bannon, Roger Stone, the entire Project 2025 Hitler cuck-boys, the conservative SCOTUS, the penis thirsty MGT and Bob-head, Little Ronnie Florida Man, Mike Watch-My-Son’s Johnson, and every fucking confirmed and potential Turd collaborator.
It would have been legal but Dems are basically the Jedi Council, expecting the Sith to play fair.
That’s literally the opposite of what the Dem leadership ever does. Expecting them to put the outcomes for regular people over system rules and norms (and their owner donors) is like expecting a sheep to become an obligate carnivore.
Neoliberals don’t change the system, they ARE the system. You’re not going to get systemic change from someone whose raison d’être is protecting the norms and rules at all costs.
Nope.
Dems try to adhere to The Rules And Procedures
Pubs don’t give a shit
They’ve got dozens of excuses for failure, that’s just one of them.
Dems try to adhere to The Rules And Procedures
Tell that to Nancy’s stock portfolio… Or is that “legal”?
Either way they’re 2 rich 2 resist.
That first part is kinda what I’m saying: Dems adhere to the rules and procedures even when it prevents them from taking completely reasonable actions that the people who they’re supposed to represent want.
Republicans break all rules and norms to do awful things and Dems refuse to break any rules or norms to stop it.
It’s like a fistfight where one fighter is wielding a sawed off shotgun and the other refuses to even fight dirty.
Well this is the bitch: you can’t play that game. Because the whole point of that game to smash the rules of order. To destroy the social contract. To create chaos and revoke rights. Any move you make is a win for them and a loss for everyone else.
Don’t play chess with pigeons
And that attitude is how we got here:
So how it usually plays out is that destroying is usually much easier than building.
So if the oligarchs destroy the rules, you will not win by trying to rebuild them. You will only get back to some sense of normal by shooting back and making them understand why the rules were there. And I don’t mean threats.
The moment the office of the president was given complete immunity from everything, Biden should have had Musk shot. More realistically, Dems should have fought judicial appointments the same way as Reps did, and actually appointed activist judges instead of trying and failing to appoing Merrick fucking Garland.
The eleventh hour of the “system” was prosecuting Trump. That system does not exist anymore, there is nothing to defend at this point.
That’s a false dichotomy.
You’re assuming that the only alternative to slavishly adhering to the rules as determined by people who could not possibly predict today’s circumstances is to ignore the very concept of rules and procedure.
I’m not advocating for Dems to do either. I’m advocating for them to change the rules for the better when they can and to bend or even outright break them when it’s necessary and justified.
Following rules for their own sake even when it’s clearly contrary to the needs and wants of the people is just a more socially acceptable form of authoritarianism.
Not assuming a falsity at all - the rules in question are due process
So THAT’S where you want the goal posts now?
Sure, due process is an inalienable human right that should never be infringed upon.
That obviously wasn’t what I was talking about, though.
Sorry, should have been clearer: due LEGISLATIVE process
old guard dems are just GOP in disguise, because they often work together behind the scenes making deals, they both of the same megadonors, additionally they hope to get by being “not-republican” candidates.
If Biden did that, it would have been anarchy right now
A. The Trump administration is breaking the law.
Yes, we know the rules are rigged. The system is dysfunctional. Breaking more things? Not gonna help! We have to get serious about creating something new. We need clear and fair rules.
