NRA been quiet right

  • Stupe@lemm.ee
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    1 day ago

    My 00 buckshot is allowed to enter ICE agents who don’t have a warrant.

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      21 hours ago

      Ya. I mean. They don’t have a warrant. They’re trespassing.

      The issue is law enforcement won’t serve a warrant in the blind. They do their research. They know who they’re about to take down.

      So if it’s just a migrant family trying to get by. Sure. They’ll knock the doors down guns drawn like in the tv shows.

      But it you a coked up methhead with traps all over your property in rural Georgia they’ll conveniently not have enough probable cause.

      America is a messed up country.

    • ibelieveinthehousehippo@lemmy.ca
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      22 hours ago

      I keep seeing this nonsense being parroted as though these pigs are going to burst in while you’re ready and waiting.

      Surely they won’t come in and kill you while you’re asleep, right? No, that could never happen…

      • Snowclone@lemmy.world
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        18 hours ago

        No knock warrants are stupidly dangerous for the victim and police. Personally if the SS are knocking my door down, and I can certainly say no one else is going to do this at any time, I’m comfortable with making my own terms. My life is going to hopefully cost more than equal loss. I’d rather fight till I die then die in a hole, they can torture and rape my corpse, I’ll be done with it before then.

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        22 hours ago

        Having firearms for protection is so they’re within reach and ready…if you lock up your fire extinguisher then it’s pretty fucking useless if you have a fire.

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          21 hours ago

          I get your point, but let’s be serious. That point is about being responsible. How often do fire extinguishers get kids killed?

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            21 hours ago

            The question is how often are they not used and kids die in fires?

            Same question is, how often are kids killed by the police?

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              20 hours ago

              Idk but i don’t think fires are all that common, and we have plenty of other mechanisms to prevent fires from even happening.

              OTOH, guns being stored incorrectly is for sure far higher than any fire death you are trying to make equivalent.

              I am not strawmanning you here, but i am calling you out for being disingenuous. Like I said:

              I get your point, but let’s be serious. That point is about being responsible.

              Please don’t do backflips to justify irresponsible gun owners. That is disgusting.

              • Arcka@midwest.social
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                19 hours ago

                The strawman is that you assume children would ever be in their home. If the guns are behind locked doors away from children, they’re secured.

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                  19 hours ago

                  The strawman is that you assume children would ever be in their home.

                  Why would that be a wrong assumption? I am not sure what you are getting at here.

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                    6 hours ago

                    Really? You shouldn’t have to put in much effort to realize that not every adult has children or has family with children.

                  • SupraMario@lemmy.world
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                    19 hours ago

                    Not everyone who has guns has kids, and not everyone who has kids, allows their kids to access their firearms. That’s part of being responsible.