NRA been quiet right

  • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    How has the war on drugs been going? I’m sure you’ll agree it’s be a complete failure.

    Yeah, it has.

    It has everything to do with societal benefits and making sure our populous is taken care of.

    I agree.

    Look I’m from Tx and have family out in corn field #12675AE2 whatever midwest. I can count the number of responsible gun owners with one hand. So I am calling out what is reading to me like BS NRA talking points to excess irresponsible people. I started the chain with empathy as to the point that was being made. And I keep reading you doubling down on whataboutisms. “What if no kid lives there” (as if that is the only misuse of guns), “why do you assume they are not stored correctly” (as if didn’t start with leaving guns lying around for easy access).

    If you are who you say you are; why do you die on this hill?

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      4 hours ago

      Because I have a very multinational family, and part of it was the ones who had no means to fight against fascist during WWII. I’m lucky to have been born from the level of death the Nazis placed upon one side of my family. The other side of me is native American. So if you can imagine, two people’s who have been killed because they lacked the tools to fight back.

      Registration is something that just places the vulnerable in the crosshairs of the oppressive.

      Firearms are a force multiplier, are they dangerous? Yes. But so is a bunch of other shit. Swimming pools have more accidental deaths for kids than firearms, yet we are ok with this because it’s part of being in a society that understands a balance.

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        3 hours ago

        I think I made my case on why I felt the way I did, and why I felt you are being disingenuous.

        https://www.kff.org/mental-health/issue-brief/child-and-teen-firearm-mortality-in-the-u-s-and-peer-countries/

        There are stats that show that guns kill more children in the US than anything else (and it is a US only problem). I simply made a criticism at irresponsible gun owners and you keep trying to die on the hill to justify them. I drive a car and I am not going to make a cause to keep drunk drivers. And that is also part of the risk balance.

        Recall that I did start with empathy for the position of owning guns, but drew a line at those who abuse those rights. And I did call you out for doubling down on missing the point on purpose. I think you owe me a bit of an apology.

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          2 hours ago

          That study was done during covid. It’s no longer true and is motor vehicles again. That also includes suicides which are 2/3rds of our firearm deaths. The # of kids who find their parents gun and accidentally shoot themselves is miniscule. Like it or not, restricting firearm access because of a few accidents is not a good enough reason. Period.

          You might be against drunk driving, but you’d take pause if everyone who purchased alcohol had to drink it in designated places so they could be monitored.