• Logical@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Sounds like suicide to me. I feel like Boeing is still largely at fault for bringing him to that point though.

      • stembolts@programming.dev
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        2 months ago

        I would hope that if I publicly proclaimed, “I have no intent to commit suicide,” before my suicide then people would…

        …at a minimum, state, “Brother that guy proclaimed he had no intent to commit suicide,” every time it was brought up.

        …then ideally that additional scrutiny would be applied at a law enforcement level and the case would be handled with extra scrutiny.

        So lacking the ideal, I’m here to remind you that just before his suicide he proclaimed, “I’m not going to commit suicide.”

        I’m extremely puzzled how this isn’t brought up every time, people need to remember.

  • toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    the most interesting part to me is that nowhere along the line did anyone mention just how interesting it all is. you know the real bad shit has started when the press shuts up and universities bend over and one of the richest people in the fucking world has to re-think his pricing displays because it pissed off the King.

    edit to add - he put a fucking tax on british tea without congress. that’s a taxation without representation. on british fucking tea.

  • Zess@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Chiquita overthrew a government and everyone still loves their bananas 🤷‍♂️

    • toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 months ago

      honestly, you’re not being downvoted for your opinion. you’re being downvoted because you’re just being contrarian without providing anything at all to substantiate your stance. you might have well just wrote “lol” or something else just as asinine. no offense, of course

      • Bunnylux@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Lol what? There’s no evidence this happened. It’s up to the conspiracy theorists to provide evidence, which they never do. You cant just be like, prove that DIDNT happen!! Like hello? Has this entire comment thread lost its collective mind? Does truth and evidence mean nothing?

        • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.worldOP
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          2 months ago

          A guy who specifically stated he wasn’t suicidal and had no plans to end his life shot himself in the back of the head outside the comfort of his home a day or two before he was supposed to testify about Boeing putting scrap parts in their planes.

          Lol ok

  • MeThisGuy@feddit.nl
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    2 months ago

    who I do remember is Brock Turner, yes that guy… the rapist Brock Turner. who now goes by the name of Allen Turner. that guy

  • PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    2 months ago

    This is honestly a subject I get annoyed about. The US has ‘whistleblower’ protections but it’s really not there. This isn’t a black-op opp, it’s a failure of protections/proper compensations for blowing the whistle. Imagine you’ve spent your whole life dedicated to one field of engineering. You’ve now sacrificed it to blow the whistle. It’s not fair, nor is it just, but that’s what happens.

    Boeing has done so much wrong that it honestly feels negligent to focus on a perceived assassination. And it directs attention away from how whistleblowers could be protected

  • shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    The risk/reward analysis goes against assassinating the man. Despite prevailing opinions on executives around here, they’re not fucking stupid, especially at the level of one who could order a hit. Even if several were involved for plausible deniability, they would all foresee the circular firing squad in the event murder came to light.

    • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.worldOP
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      2 months ago

      Seems like the risk paid off pretty well considering he was testifying about scrap parts in their planes and none of Boeings planes were grounded or inspected as a result.

    • fishy@lemmy.todayEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Yup, what would the executives actually lose if they were found guilty in the court case? They’d need to find new jobs, but would give themselves fat severance packages.

      Corporations suck ass, but this is nonsense.

      • shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 months ago

        What would they lose? Going down for conspiracy to commit murder for a start. Murder 1 as well.

        • fishy@lemmy.todayEnglish
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          2 months ago

          I think you misunderstood. I mean the repercussions for courts finding the execs guilty of his accusations is a slap on the wrist vs charges for murder.

    • Dasus@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      The risk/reward analysis goes against assassinating the man.

      You’re assuming reason and logic. Money addicted billionaire CEO’s are about as rational as crackwhores who need a fix.

  • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    A lot of new .world users showing up with ChatGPT responses about how this was a conspiracy

    Reminds me of the Epstein thing. It could be AI. But people do love their conspiracy theories, too.

    • m0stlyharmless@lemm.eeEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Unless there’s actual evidence that it’s AI, I think this is an absolutely absurd assumption to make.

    • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.worldOP
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      2 months ago

      Chat,

      Did the Boeing whistleblower who deliberately told his family and friends that he wasn’t suicidal commit suicide?

      • Bunnylux@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Do you actually know anyone suicidal? They usually don’t tell people. They often don’t know themselves. They changed their mind. They’re depressed. They’re anxious. They’re not well. They die suddenly. Everyone is surprised. That is how it goes.

        • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.worldOP
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          2 months ago

          How often do suicidal people reach out to a bunch of their friends and family just to specifically tell them they are NOT going to commit suicide?

          • Bunnylux@lemmy.world
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            2 months ago

            That didn’t happen. One grieving family friend said that he said that. John Oliver would have a field day with you people lol. Boeing has hurt and killed a lot of people. They do this like corporations do - by cutting staff, evading regulation, buying politicians. Boeing is liable for great harm. But focusing on these conspiracies rather than getting to the root of the problem – that capitalism enables great harm by eroding our society – isn’t helping.

            • Refurbished Refurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org
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              2 months ago

              These conspiracies come as a direct result of capitalism. Everybody can plainly see when Boeing murders whistleblowers that it is because of money/their image.

              Failure to talk about these conspiracies is a failure to point out the specific failures of capitalism.

              Also I assume you actually meant conspiracy and not conspiracy theory.

            • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.worldOP
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              2 months ago

              So Corporations will break any law for profit besides murder?

              I trust the guy’s family more than the police lol, so do most people

              You’re really bending over backwards to push this narrative.

              • Bunnylux@lemmy.world
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                2 months ago

                What “narrative”? It’s on the Wikipedia page. It’s not a narrative, it’s what happened. Like… I really don’t care that much about this specific case. It’s more about the principle, the erosion of truth, the meaninglessness of facts. It’s honestly the same type of thinking that makes right wing conspiracists and I don’t want to capitulate to it. Focusing on a a salacious and improbable event downplays the real “evils” of capitalism, the smaller but cumulative things: the selfishness, the greed of everyday people and how profit motivated corporations enhance and multiply that. Contrapoints (Natalie Wynn) just did a fantastic video on conspiracies that touches on all three points. I would recommend it to anyone.

                • Refurbished Refurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org
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                  2 months ago

                  Focusing on a a salacious and improbable event downplays the real “evils” of capitalism

                  That’s the thing. These events are not just “salacious and improbable”. These events are actually happening in front of our eyes and they need to be taken seriously. These events are happening as a direct result of capitalism, and not calling it out will just allow the right to set the narrative on those issues.

          • Bunnylux@lemmy.world
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            2 months ago

            How did “one family friend named Jennifer who can’t believe it” turn into “all his family and friends”

      • chaogomu@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Suicidal people lie about being suicidal.

        That’s like the first thing you learn Suicide Awareness.

        • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.worldOP
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          2 months ago

          Do suicidal people reach out to their freinds and family to specifically tell them they aren’t going to commit suicide and nothing else?

          You’re not going to be able to push your narrative here.

          • chaogomu@lemmy.world
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            2 months ago

            Suicidal people lie about being suicidal. And yes, they do reach out to friends and family.

            It’s also important to note here, John Barnett was not giving any sort of testimony that could harm Boeing. That’s not what the trial was over,

            No, the trial, or rather the appeal, was over Boeing’s retaliation against John Barnett for his past whistleblowing. Whistleblowing that resulted in Boeing receiving a fine.

            That particular case was done and over. John Barnett had nothing more to add.

            John Barnett sued Boeing for the wrongful termination, and other retaliation including Blackballing him (talking to other Aerospace companies to make sure they wouldn’t hire him), John lost the court case to Boeing’s high priced lawyers.

            John then appealed, and gave testimony in court in front of the appeals judge.

            I don’t know if you’ve ever been at a low point like that. Where you think you’ve hit rock bottom, and you hinge your hopes on just one thing going right, only for it to go horribly wrong.

            I’ve been to that false rock bottom, and found the depths hidden below it.

            Boeing didn’t need to hire some contract killer to pull the trigger.

            John Barnett was fighting his wrongful termination for seven years. That’s how Boeing got John to pull the trigger. They drove him to suicide, didn’t need to go any further.

            That’s what you conspiracy nuts miss. Boeing ruined a man’s life, and that’s the part that you’re ignoring. Or maybe you heard someone rightfully say that Boeing killed a man, and you thought it was meant literally.

  • N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Jeffrey Epstein. Imagine how many people whose names you haven’t heard just randomly committed suicide one day. Or had an accident. Or just disappeared.