• FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au
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      4 days ago

      You actually want me to provide 6 examples of left-wing homophobia, or pedos, or anything else like that? You seriously don’t think that any left-wing people do bad things?

      The point is that there’s no “right wingers are all closet homosexuals”, just like there’s no “left wingers are all closet pedos”. How did you not get that? Are there some, even lots, on both sides? Absolutely.

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        You’re right in that individual examples prove nothing, but the evidence suggests something larger at play.

        I’ve provided examples of individual and institutional homophobia - you’ve failed to even suggest evidence of the former. I would not deny that individual “left wingers” (idk if you distinguish between leftists and liberals in the same way I do) that are homophobic - but I don’t think I’ve seen any evidence that progressive ideologies are institutionally homophobic. Feel free to provide some evidence though!

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            “trans rights” and gay rights don’t mix very well.

            Classic right wing “divide and conquer” tactics, try to drive a wedge between trans and gay people, pick off the trans people first, then come for the gays next. This nonsense is exactly why the LGBT acronym was made in the first place, because we (the vast majority of us, anyway) stand together in solidarity and reject this idiotic nonsense.

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              Completely wrong.

              Gay is same sex attraction. Nothing at all to do with gender and especially not gender identity.

              Trans people and advocates call gay men who won’t date a trans man (a female) “bigots” and “transphobes”. They say that a male can be a lesbian, and if a lesbian won’t suck a “female penis” she is transphobic and a bigot. That’s homophobia, and like I said, it is rife in the TQ community.

              Gay rights and trans rights are not compatible. One is based on sexual attraction, one is based on “gender identity”, the latter of which tries to force the former to not exist. The trans activists don’t even hide it - they call it “genital preference” and say it’s transphobic. That’s incredibly homophobic.

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            Boo-boo, I’m a trans man. Telling me that being trans is homophobic is not the move.

            Radicalized theories of transgender identity also now serve to promote the idea that gender and sexuality are not only different, but unconnected. In one narrow sense, there is some basis to this: All men are not sexually attracted to women, and vice versa—which is why separating desire from gender is important. But it’s one thing to say that your gender doesn’t predict who you will be sexually attracted to (which is true), and quite another to say that gender has absolutely nothing to do with sexuality, which (as I will illustrate by way of autobiography later in this essay) is false.

            Holy shit, they gave this dumbass a PhD?

            Amazing that your same source (different author) has an article praising John Money. The guy who made David Reimer pretend to have sex with his brother to convince him that he was a girl. That’s fascinating - usually “TERFs” like to bring up Money to condemn “the trans movement.”

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              Telling me that being trans is homophobic is not the move.

              I didn’t tell you that, but good try.

              I said that many of the “trans rights” and trans ideologies are distinctly anti-gay, due to what I pointed out - “genital preferences” and so on.

              Gay = Same SEX attraction. Nothing else. “Gender identity” plays no part in it. No matter what gender you identify as, if you are a FEMALE a gay man will not be attracted to you. Saying that if they won’t date you because of your sex/genitals makes them transphobic is homophobic.

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                Idk, the guys blowing up my phone on Grindr right now seem pretty attracted. Chubby bears with hella body hair are a prime currency in the gay world, let me tell you.

                Like, you know one believes that “trans people are conversion therapy” or “genital preferences” shit IRL right? Most people are ya know, normal. Everyone has preferences for who they feel like dating, whatever.

                Some gay guys haven’t been interested because of my equipment; other guys have been very eager; most are in the middle. I don’t share dick pics without consent, but I can tell you my little soldier is pretty impressive when he stands for attention.

                Like again, you’ve wriggled your way so far away from even trying to make a point. See, at least TERFs can be convincing with the claims of being feminists. This is such a transparent ass pull; you don’t actually give a shit about homophobia.

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                  Online dating apps are irrelevant. When they find out you’re biologically female they will lose all interest if they’re gay males.

                  This is such a transparent ass pull; you don’t actually give a shit about homophobia.

                  100% incorrect. The current “trans rights” push comes at the expense of gay rights, as I have said and as I have pointed out specific examples of. Women’s rights have come at the expense of “trans rights” as well. When you’re taking away someone elses rights because you think you deserve more rights, you’re on the wrong path.

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                    Online dating apps are irrelevant. When they find out you’re biologically female they will lose all interest if they’re gay males.

                    You are assuming that I haven’t already completed the act. I’m not going to bore you with the details of my hot sweaty mansex, unless that’s something you’re into. (Tbh, this wouldn’t be the place.)

                    Yeah, your second paragraph isn’t even a thought. You’re stringing together buzzwords and catchphrases like a parrot. You’re not going to manage to play a convincing feminist dumbass.