Mondoweiss is not a credible source.
Just so everyone knows, this article is kinda misleading. The original source is an Israeli news organization hour long special, 60 minutes style, where they talked to people who worked in the Biden administration. The thing this article is discussing is how Biden essentially never came to BB and said “ceasefire right now”. But that doesn’t mean there was no pressure involved.
For instance, the same special talked to people who were aware of plans in the administration to do a speech that, they hoped, would trigger elections in Israel and force out BB so that a pro-ceasfire government could come into power and get it done. It would have been a speech about Biden telling Israelis have two choices, continue the killing or work towards lasting peace. Those plans didn’t amount to what people wanted and Biden ended up giving a much more mild speech that didn’t do shit. To the dismay of many in the state department and the White House.
The report also talked about how multiple times throughout the administration was talking to BB to get a ceasefire and they’d come to an agreement and then at the last minute BB would pull out to prolong the conflict past the election. It happened multiple times. Remember when Biden said they had come to an agreement several times and nothing came of it? That’s because the agreement they had come to was dropped by BB and it made Biden look like a senile old man who made it up.
Edit: To be fair, this article speaks of this in the 4th to last paragraph and then addresses how Biden was also trying to broker a deal between Israel and the Saudis that would have lead to peace and international recognition of the Palestinian state. To which BB didn’t want to do because it would give him a win. That is mentioned, in the 3rd to last paragraph in the article. Gotta lead with the most sensational stuff and hide that there’s much more to it than “Biden did nothing”
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BB was doing everything he could to prolong the conflict and make sure Biden and eventually Harris were not elected.
Should Biden have been more forceful and come to Israel and said “hey, ceasefire right fucking now?” Absolutely. But to say they did nothing is disingenuous.
If you don’t believe what I’m saying then you should really question this article too because I’m just using the same source they are, an Israeli news special.
It is not misleading it is completely correct and matches reality.
Biden could have stopped the genocide in a single phone call.
The article leads with saying he did nothing, which is misleading because he did do things even if they didn’t work. Saying he did nothing is misleading.
He acted like he did something but did nothing which would work.
Do you think asking Netanyahu while sending him bombs without demands is doing something?
Even the Israelis are boasting about Biden doing nothing. And they are correct.
What’s next boasting about Trumps ceasefire at the beginning of his presidency?
Then punish who was responsible. See how easy that is MAGA?
it was never a problem in previous administrations no news was ever brought up in the previous elections over israels decades long genocide, its only brought to attention and propagandized because they were afraid biden winning the election again.
Are you just gonna gloss over how many were killed in the past year and half compared to under previous administrations?
That doesn’t take into account the buried & still missing…
That “genocide Joe” thing was a plan.
Stupid bullshit
Even the headline itself suggests this is not worthy of discussion…
When you care so little about genocide you don’t think it is worthy of discussion.
Then shut up?
We must never forget what an utter piece of shit President Biden was. A man entirely not up the challenge of his time in office. The stink of the immorality of his foreign policy is all over his cabinet, Kamala Harris and the Democratic Party leadership. We should never let them avoid the consequences for participating in this barbarity.
A man entirely not up the challenge of his time in office
He accomplished the only thing centrists wanted: arming a genocide.
Never forget this piss poor take…
Your response is why America has been doomed to collapse into fascism for decades.
The pro-corporate oligarchy party, who spent decades screwing the working class and preventing real improvement, are seen as “the good guys” in the fight against fascism, because they were better than literal fascists, despite being critical to the success of fascism.
That’s cool. I think we have big shit to worry about now.
If you can’t be bothered to not aid an active genocide, you are going to do shit to defend democracy. The US is fundamentally broken
Western democracy in general in that regard
Did you know in Sudan (5x the population of Israel/Gaza) there is a literal ethnic genocide going on right now? As in Arabs going village to village and straight up murdering people based entirely on how dark their skin is? And this started before the 2024 election. How many times have you posted about that?
Funny how all of these disingenuous anti-Biden and anti-DNC posters are so conveniently playing into the Republicans’ hands by making Israel a single issue voting point.
Was Joe Biden bankrolling that for 70% with US taxpayer dollars?
Literally yes, the US funds the KSA who fund the RSF
Are we currently arming the genocide in Sudan that you’re whatabouting?
Nothing changed with Trump. In fact it has gotten worse for them… and also the rest of the US who oppose Israel.
Also… absolutely every other country on earth did 100% nothing to stop Israel. So, point fingers all you want—everyone on earth allowed this.
Everyone on earth allowed this.
No, not even close. That is just dumb, almost as dumb as the temporary pier. Why spend the time defending war crimes?
What did anyone do? If I’m so dumb, who tried to stop it? Who is defending? I’m accusing everyone. You didn’t do anything. I didn’t do anything. Literally no country came in and said “stop it or else!” Dumb is wanting to blame one person so bad you’re blind to reality.
Yemenis stopped trade through the red sea costing a lot of money to Israel. I bet you cheered for operation amazon prime.
Oh goodness, they stopped trade?! Thoughts and fucking prayers. I bet you were just fine with that.
Stand for nothing, fall for anything.
People can focus on multiple issues at once.
Unfortunately we can’t change the past. We need to focus on Trump who is very open about accelerating the genocide plan.
So, democrats are going to start opposing genocide?
Is Biden currently in charge? No, it’s Trump and we need to deal with him now instead of putting the focus on what the Democrats did in the previous administration. Unless you’re suggesting we ignore Trump and continue to blame Biden of genocide?
Is Biden currently in charge?
I didn’t say biden, did I? I said democrats. Are they going to start opposing genocide? Oh right. Of fucking course they won’t. genocide support is all they are.
No, it’s Trump and we need to deal with him now instead of putting the focus on what the Democrats did in the previous administration.
Democrats already had a credibility problem. You say you want to deal with trump, but democrats keep voting for his nominees. democrats voted for his continuing resolution. democrats voted against the minimum wage increase they claimed to support. biden ran on cannabis legalization but ran out the clock instead. democrats keep lying and expect everyone to keep acting like they’re not useless liars.
But they are useless liars. This is a pattern of behavior going back for some time. democrats say they want something. they run on it. Then they get into office and find some way to avoid doing it. They say they’re doing something behind the scenes, then it turns out that it was a lie and they weren’t.
what action can i take about this
Organise, plan, act
I am all for coordinated movements, but organize with who, plan what, act how?
I see this kind of sentiment all the time on Lemmy and generally agree with it, but it feels like platitudes at this point when no one can recommend anything concrete.
Look for local mutual aid groups, get stuck in
Recession, tariffs, no due process, people with papers being deported, measles, no environmental or food protections, state sponsored religion, state control of school curriculum and staffing, the elimination of safety nets for poor and sick Americans, the president selling meme coins, the dismantling of independent journalism, increased government handouts to billionaires, etc.
Where does this rank on the list of multiple issues at once?
Clearly you don’t understand, both sides did something I don’t like, which makes them the same
/s
Also bird flu, climate change, housing bubble bursting, high likelihood of food supply storage and that kid back on the fucking escalator.
What’s the kid on the escalator one?
It’s from Mallrats. Pretty old reference but Lemmy trends to the older crowd.
Listen, not a year goes by, not a year, that I don’t hear about some escalator accident involving some bastard kid which could have easily been avoided had some parent - I don’t care which one - but some parent conditioned him to fear and respect that escalator.
it’s telling how this revelation gets such little airtime or attention given that it was the central reason why kamala lost the election; not even on lemmy.
You can see from all the demon libs here in this thread that it wasn’t even close to being the central reason why Kamala lost. They don’t give a fuck tens of thousands of gazan children were blown to bits, crushed to death beneath collapsing blocks, shot in the head all with their money.
800-273-TALK
Don’t be afraid to call if you need help.
Save that number when Donald chokes on a burger and dies.
Is this the suicide hotline? That’s fucking ghoulish, you are gross.
That’s what these Trump trolls are.
It is not even close to the central reason why Harris lost the election.
Literally have never seen any evidence that “protest voters” actually made a difference in 2024.
That didn’t stop every “liberal” on social media blaming the anti-genocide voters (and still doesn’t).
Almost like the whole thing was an APAC/fascist-coordinated PsyOp to further divide “liberals” and "the left"…
look at the yougov poll to find out why harris got fewer votes that biden last time around; she lost so much that there aren’t even enough 3rd party voters to make up for the difference in democrats that didn’t vote this time around.
48 to 46% according to yougov.
Eldavi is from .ml
They don’t understand reality like we do.meanwhileongrad: finally some fresh fuckin food yeah?
I think we’re a little past this.
DNC stans are still posting how “anti genocide” Biden-Harris was every single day. They aren’t past it for sure.
This is some of the most incredible finger in the ear bullshit I’ve ever seen. If ya’ll don’t recon with the failures of the DNC and just try to shove them down the memory hole, you are just gonna get the same fucking shitty candidates with compromised primaries.
Look at this news, understand that the Biden admin was lying about trying to end an active genocide, we should demand much better. Keep in the top of your mind how feckless and cowardly the leadership was while staring down the barrel of a potential Trump second.
Ya’ll are totally ok with losing some sort of moral high ground you weren’t ever on, as evidenced by this story. Fucking callow moderate liberals are a curse, ml is right about that.
Finger up your ass bullshit
Yeah, that’s about the level of discourse I expected judging by the rest of this thread. Just gross shit.
So are you pro-Trump trolls exactly or what?
Can’t get your act, be extra aggressive towards any change that might entice more left wing support next election?
we’re never going to be past anything if we never acknowledge that fact that biden/harris are just as complicit w the gazan genocide as trump is.
Thanks for reminding me about the time Kamala posted AI generated real estate porn of The Kamala on Gaza
Speak for yourself.
We all understand that.i’m speaking as an american, for americans.
Don’t fucking speak for me, loser.
You don’t speak for me. Hell I doubt you’re capable of speaking for yourself.
Yeah, sorry. You don’t speak for me.
We’re post that issue.
Can’t help you if you personally are not.it will happen again; not past it at all
Good for you.
You are not everyone.
