Thing is that, I know it can’t be proven by science as soul and spirit are something beyond like science can’t answer that. I think that there is something called soul and spirit but I am very naive enough to understand what exactly are they. Those who believe, can you pls give me proofs like not scientific, but logical, metaphysical.
Short answer, no.
Logic and metaphysics are both based on evidence, and faith is the belief in something for which there is no evidence. Or, rather, faith is the evidence of things unseen, the substance of things hoped for. In other words, to believe that something exists beyond science is to reject the need for evidence or logic.
It’s like asking for food that cannot be eaten. You’ll find people who claim to have evidence or logic, but it will be conjecture or wishful thinking. You’ll find examples of discredited evidence, like the idea that steam rising from a dead body on a cold battlefield was evidence of the physical soul escaping to heaven, or pseudoscience about the weight of a body at the moment of death. You might call that supernatural logic in the same way a rotten cheeseburger is inedible food. Once you abandon a rigorous adherence to the scientific method, it’s no longer logic or evidence.
Embrace your faith. Proof is for things that don’t require faith.
Thing is that I am like having quite doubt on this. I was watching a YT channel and he said that Max Plank, and Erwin Schrodinger said that consciousness is independent of physical matter. Mind is fundamental, it uses matter BUT it is not a matter and he said that it is scientifically and mathematically proven. But idk why he dodged the concept of spirit. That’s why I asked here.
Doubt is normal. Faith without doubt is delusion. But faith is a choice to ignore doubt and believe anyway.
There’s a lot of study and research and philosophy that has examined the nature and properties of the mind. We can be sure minds exist because we think. The problem is defining what a mind is without tautology. Some philosophers integrate the concepts of the mind and the soul. Others separate the two as distinct concepts. Whatever you believe, there’s no physical evidence that the mind survives the death of the body, or exists prior to the birth of a person.
Looking for proof is a dead end, in the literal and figurative meanings.
Reminded me of “I think therefore I am”. What is tautology?? Well I don’t believe anything. I just look for scientific and logical evidence and what seems rationally consistent and true, I accept the fact. I don’t have faith.
Interestingly, Descartes wrote in the margin “we cannot doubt our existence while we doubt.”
Tautology is a form of circular reasoning where you define something as a thing and use the definition to prove it. For example, if I said “all balls are round,” you might suggest that you could make a ball out of a cube, or force a ball into a cube shape, disproving my statement. “Aha, but once it is a cube, it ceases to be a ball!” That’s a tautological argument. I haven’t proven my statement, I have merely defined the statement as true and applied it as truth in my defense.
If you don’t have faith, why are you in a religion community asking about souls?
I don’t know. I just feel that like there is something above me that makes myself that is soul and spirit!! I don’t know. But I fear spirits to this day idk why. But in human, i don’t know what is spirit? I think soul and spirit are same