• Secret Music@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    19 hours ago

    I’m very conflicted about metal and metalheads these days. Sure, there’s the “they’re really cool and chill people stereotype” but then there’s also Phil Anselmo pictured doing a nazi salute and still happily touring with the likes of Black Sabbath to this day. There’s big bad (and popular) Metallica that squeals “don’t tread on me” like confederate losers.

    Punk rock at least tries to kick the nazis out. Metal embraces them and puts them on best seller lists. And breeds the kind of macho dickheads that put down other people to feel more like a man.

    That’s why, if I’m completely honest, I’m starting to look exclusively towards female vocalists for my metal needs these days. Now more than ever, I’m sick of dick swinging and macho man power trips. Now more ever, when I hear references to rattlesnakes being tread on, it makes me feel like breaking stuff. And of course there’s a hell of a lot less of a chance of them turning out to be nazis or sexual predators.

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      18 hours ago

      there’s a hell of a lot less of a chance of them turning out to be nazis or sexual predators.

      Nah, it’s pretty much the same. Maybe they’re less vocal about it because they’re already worried about being accepted in a male dominated field. But being as horrible as possible is pretty even across the sexes in other areas, so probably this one as well.

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      19 hours ago

      I dunno what to tell you but women can be nazis too.

      Besides, every hobby has assholes in it. But because there are a few pieces of shit in metal, doesn’t mean all of metal is racist or sexist. That’s like saying people who like science fiction are nazis and misogynist because Wernher von Braun wrote Project Mars.

      And last I checked, metal didn’t embrace nazis. There are fringe nazi sympathizers in metal, but metal as a whole is repulsed by nazisism. They just can’t control what some people do. Just like how punk can’t control of there are a few nazi punk bands out there no matter how much they try to reject them.

      It genuinely pisses me off how such a small group of assholes can get so many people to act like metal as a whole is racist. It was no different back in the 2000s where my parents also wanted me to stop listening to it because my dad found one article about a guy who beat up his girlfriend and he apparently liked Metallica.

      This is the blaming video games for school shooters argument all over again. And back then, metal was blamed for that too.

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        my parents also wanted me to stop listening to it because my dad found one article about a guy who beat up his girlfriend and he apparently liked Metallica

        My dad once picked me up from a party when I was in high school in the 1980s; he noticed a video that was playing on MTV and was highly disturbed by the imagery in it, as he told me later (many times).

        The video was “Cuts Like a Knife” by Bryan Adams. My dad thought he was losing me to Satan because of fucking Bryan Adams!

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          Art = scaring parents for centuries.

          My dad was also convinced that my group of friends would get me into drugs which is fucking hilarious. I tried so many times to explain to him and my mom that my friends were all socially awkward nerds who unironically did Naruto runs when no one was looking. We were cringe as fuck and most of us were former bully victims who lived sheltered lives and and just really liked watching animated movies and shows. Many of us had never really had friends before either, so having interests to bond over was pretty cool.

          But because we also dressed in black, some dying their hair in crazy colors and we listened to metal, we had to be criminals. I am in my mid 30s now, still listen to metal and I have yet to do drugs and violent crimes. Any day now, though!

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    20 hours ago

    I don’t know where this is coming from because I grew up in the era of Marilyn Manson, the Murderdolls and Dir En Grey (etc.) Where gender was some fluid shit and everybody vibed with it.

    Even though I don’t like them, I also remember Rammstein playing around with gender expression.

    Overall, my personal experience with metal since teenhood in the 2000s is that metalheads are extremely chill and open minded and the bigots are some fringe groups here and there that nobody likes to talk to anyways.

  • Etterra@discuss.online
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    21 hours ago

    Hey don’t knock the metal itself. It actually requires people to know how to play instruments and sing. Unlike some rap I might mention.

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      I agree that people are often unfairly dismissive of Metal as a genre.

      But people are also often unfairly dismissive of Rap and Hip Hop. A lot of the time that dismissal is rooted in racism.

      Now, go listen to some MF Doom, and tell me rap doesn’t require talent

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        Tbf rap doesn’t require talent. Go listen to lil peep and tell me talent is required.

        Now, is talent required for good rap? Yeah, and there’s no shortage of it if you know where to look. But goddamn lil uzi vert sucks ass. I know we can’t all be KRS One but do we have to be takeshi 69?

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    21 hours ago

    You want more trump? Keep posting this shit and you will get another trump.

    The lack of awareness is staggering.

    • Godric@lemmy.worldOP
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      Well, the economy is headed for recession and the international system the US spent the last 80 years building is forever shattered and nobody will ever trust us again, but at least trans people can’t use their preferred bathrooms.

      Was it a good trade?

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      I understand the message, but there are like 2 people that voted for trump on lemmy and both of them have been banned from most communities

      People can make memes about how bad the other side is without having to think about how to effectively create propaganda

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      19 hours ago

      People who elect genocidal, theocratic fascists to power because they think trans people are icky should be driven to the fringes of society, not have their feelings coddled.

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    22 hours ago

    “23 subgenres of equally shitty growls and screams” sounds like a headline from far-right media, so…

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    22 hours ago

    Duh, Metal is clearly when your opinions align with fart-in-chief of a right wing government owned by crusty billionaires appealing to boomers /s

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    I wanna downvote because you called metal shitty growls and screams, but I’m no transphobe so you get a comment >:(

    Metal people are the most chill people always, have you seen Serj outside of musical videos? He’s almost a hippie.

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      21 hours ago

      [OP] called metal shitty growls and screams,

      To give the OP credit, even as a metal fan, they’re not exactly wrong. There are plenty of bands/genres that I try to listen to and come away thinking something to that effect.

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    I’ll never understand why this is a divisive issue… let people live however they want, unless they bother others. How does it bother me if someone wants do get rid of their dick? Stop interfering in people’s lives.

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      17 hours ago

      They genuinely believe trans people are child molesting scum that are trying to convert their children into transgenders.

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      20 hours ago

      unless they bother other

      Well, that’s the thing. So many people are bothered when someone does something they wouldn’t personally do, often because they were told their whole life that there is only one proper way to exist.

      “…unless they are harming someone else.” though, that is a pretty solid criteria.

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      23 hours ago

      Deliberately used as the “enemy” by the fascist state as scapegoat and distraction. Queer people were also targeted by Nazis.

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    1 day ago

    Is this referring to something Alabama has said recently? Just googled.