When I say dead users, I mean ones who have been banned, suspended, or deleted (probably after they got banned). I see this so often when browsing posts, and it is so reflective of the problems I have been faced with as well. I’ll be scrolling through a post, and sometimes unironically like 50% of all comments have the stupid little profile picture with its back turned, and when I hover over it it has either been suspended or deleted.

I have been having major issues where I’ve basically been permanently wiped off the platform over some bullshit permaban and can’t get it appealed, and it is just shocking that so many other people are obviously just getting completely swept away by these same bullshit bans. How is Reddit going to survive like this? It’s to the point where any sort of long-term engagement on the site just seems impossible because soon enough the CIA-level, all seeing AI will catch you in its net and then you’re done.

Even if they miraculously change their system to not have the world’s most oppressive ban system, what happens to everyone who’s already been banned? Will a decent percentage of the entire platform just be fucked for life because they were on the platform at the wrong place and the wrong time?

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    Their algo keeps permabanning me if I use their Reddit app. I used to bypass it by using patched 3rd party clients, but I’m too old for that nonsense now. I just don’t post or do anything on Reddit anymore

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    I’m banned from lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/piracy for being ‘capitalist scum’ because I commented in lemmy.world/c/technology that I didn’t want the Internet Archive archiving my content.

    Not quite the same as a Reddit permaban, but authoritarians and orthodoxy enforcers are everywhere.

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    Yep I’m a reddit refugee

    I was permabanned for saying “bad bot” to a nazi apologist

    Yet when an intimate video of me was being shared without my permission, they apparently couldn’t do anything because it breached no rules

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      I got banned for saying a mod was on a power trip. I was permanently banned with no way to appeal. Been here ever since. Haven’t been back. My wife showed me a reddit thread the other day about a serious topic and every single comment was a meta joke about nothing. I expected to see serious answers like the old days but it was just comment after comment of people trying to be the next broken arms or coconut fucker. I’m all for funny shit but it was all just cringe and my axe bullshit. That place is just awful.

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          Google Reddit broken arms and you’ll see. Short version, dude breaks both arms, Mom senses his tension, jerks him off for relief.

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        It has devolved

        I’m annoyed only because I had quite a number of genuine fans of my content, and reddit was kinda special to me because I’m now engaged to my biggest fan

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          That’s like better than 99% of all bullshit on the Internet. That’s such a cool thing. Reddit isn’t (wasn’t) all bad, but it became the Nickelback of websites. It used to be such a powerful tool for people but now it’s… Just… Whatever it is.

          My mom and step dad met on AOL in 1997 on a game called slingo lol. My half brother just turned 22 and they’re still together. My mom lived in Texas and my stepdad lived in England at the time. There’s always a good side to every thing online but it’s def not the average user experience

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            Oh, we’re half a world apart

            We see each other as often as we can, we’re working on the visa to get her to Australia

            It’s crazy how things happen

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              That’s awesome! If it worked for my mom and stepdad it can work for you two. I wish you the best, regardless of how you found each other. All that matters is you did.

              PS - Reddit sucks regardless lol

              Good luck, friend! Oi!

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                Thanks!

                We’re both older, we’ve been around, gone through some bullshit

                She’s an amazing woman, and I’m grateful every day to have her in my life

                She’s my best friend first and foremost, and so beautiful that the brightness of the sun pales in comparison

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          revenge porn or posting of non consensually released vids is now illegal in many places and reddit can be sued over it

          course it requires some money to do so

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            It was a shitty situation, and it absolutely turned my life upside down

            The bright side is that it gave me the push to do something I’d wanted to do for many years, but I was stuck in the golden handcuffs of my career

            There’s not a thing that I miss about my former life. Even the money was actually starting to become a problem, because it was turning into something that I was chasing purely for its own sake

            It’s funny where you end up sometimes, and absolutely crazy how we can get there

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    What happens to everyone who hasn’t been silenced on that platform is hopefully they contribute to other social media that aren’t blatantly pro-fash

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    I was banned for talking bad about the current administration, I then deleted my account. Ridiculous stuff.

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        Been here over a year, and yeah this is the place to be now. I love that if I disagree with how an admin runs their instance then I can just fuck off to an entirely different server, or even start my own.

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    I had my account of 12 years permabanned a few days ago. Never had an issue ever before the other day.

    Wasn’t doing anything out of the ordinary.

    Reddit wants each sub to be an echo chamber of repeated comments, they basically want to be 2013 Imgur.

    Viewing the post and scrolling is the level of engagement that matters to them. That alone generates revenue. Comments better fall in line

    At least that’s my two cents. I’m a Reddit Renegade not an admin

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      Same here. 12 years and over a quarter million karma. Im not gonna say I was single handedly supporting the site or anything, but how many high karma long term users can they delete before the site is just pure garbage?

      I love Lemmy and Im honestly glad I got permabanned from reddit over nothing. Being here reminds me of the early days of my time on Reddit, but a bit more diverse than that version of Reddit ever was. Even though there is still a pretty heavy white/young/tech skew here as there was back in the day. It doesnt feel like that is the only demographic that is here

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        I know exactly what you mean. I never cared about my karma BUT old timer accounts with a lot of karma (I think I only had like 180k) shows that they’re active. Don’t you want activity?

        How many of the people here are from the earlier Reddit era? Maybe that’s why it’s got a different vibe. Reddit’s actually banning the people that have conversations and create content with opinions and arguments. Constructive or not.

        I know personally, I feel like a post is engaging when I go in and there are Zero comments. /s

        Anyway, fuck you Spez.

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          Yeah, I was on Reddit way back, like many who have left I was very active, like half a mil karma, bla bla. Didn’t get banned, the API thing was the final straw for me. I’ve been on Lemmy since then and prefer it. Also, whilst I contribute here I spend less of my time on Lemmy, which means I’m reading more books and stuff. Leaving Reddit was absolutely the right decision. I think sunk cost keeps a lot of people there, even though karma isn’t a real thing and the site is turning to shit.

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        Yeah it does feel like early Reddit here. There’s the occasional asshole but not they hyper combat zone corposhit has become

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      Yeah they dont care about account age, can keep trying appeals but i never got a human response, just told that i tried to evade a subreddit ban and thats a permanent ban lol, I wish I was actually evading a ban on purpose, id feel better about the ban lol, its too much of a hassle to set up a new account and figure out how to use it on my phone without them tracking me somehow

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        protip: ‘ban evasion’ is an easy generic category as no one outside of reddit admins can verify it

        2 years ago I set up an account from my brand new work laptop with a fresh OS install on a network I’ve never used for reddit, and likely no one has ever used for reddit as it is specifically for a cluster of IoT devices in Martinique.

        ‘Punching nazis is okay’ got be banned for ban evasion within days of account creation

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        I didn’t even try to appeal. I just nuked the account and came over here. If every comment needs to be a delusional sunshine and rainbows comment then I’m out.

        Evading a ban is their version of resisting arrest lol. Fragile egos over there.

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          Yeah but its never been about the ppl running the site, its the community that themselves are unaware til it happens to them that I miss lol, only reason I tried appealing to their egos

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          Yeah it’s crazy how there is absolutely zero nuance in how they dish out bans. There are no warnings, no second chances, if you break any rule, no matter how big or small, they all carry the same exact punishment and that is an immediate and permanent ban for the rest of your life

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    im permabanned poster redditshitposter58. i first started reading reddit when i was about 12. by 14 i got really obsessed with the concept of “shit posting” and tried to channel it constantly, until my posting process got really bizarre and i would repeat things like “amaze balls” and “this” in my head for hours, and i would get really paranoid, start seeing things in the corners of my eyes etc, basically prodromal schizophrenia. im now on antipsychotics. i always wondered what the kind of “bad” style of reddit humor was all about; i think it’s the unconscious leaking in to the conscious, what jungian theory considered to be the cause of schizophrenic and schizotypal syptoms. i would advise all people who “use” reddit to be careful because that likely means you have a predisposition to a mental illness. peace.

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    Reddit refugee here i never got my reddit account banned I just put the text I quit on its about me and left reddit (trying to find a alternative which was here on lemmy) but maybe one day it will get banned

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    Reddit’s started it’s death spiral. It’s all downhill from here. Try starting communities here that don’t exist yet and crosspost stuff

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        Lemmy is reddit on a little delay, we already have right wing activist mods causing trouble with zero consequence

        Good thing lemmy is decentralized then and no single person can ban you and make it stick.

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            Yeah the Fediverse was built with specifically that in mind. Move to another community or instance, or create/host your own if you really can’t get along with anybody. If the admin of [email protected] is being a cock then just make your own [email protected] and come brigade everyone to go join that one instead. In real life Fediverse lore this has already happened at least once with the fracturing of 196. It’s an intended feature of the system.

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              I find it fucking hilarious how you phrase ‘repeated harassment by activist mods with the tacit approval of the admins’ as ‘can’t get along with anybody’

              Eat your block and enjoy it asshole.

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        There are always going to be bad people, but Lemmy will always be decentralized unlike Reddit. Technically you could spin up a new instance that doesn’t federate with the instances you are trying to avoid.

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    the overmoderation not by humans is everywhere, I have to watch what I say on tiktok now, things that I thought arent even bad get misinterpreted and not appelaed occasionally and the strikes pile up, while some things that I prob shouldnt have said and should be taken down get appealed and put back up lol

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      Diggs relaunch is feeling like it has potential to be the same as reddit but like a temporary reset of the shitty things, I like that they have the apollo dev for the app

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        Tbh I think I’m done with all large, commercial social medias. I’d rather invest my time here, on the fedi, where it’s all about us.

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          I have extreme hesitation to use anything by a corporation anymore. There’s nothing they can do that you can’t do yourself anymore and I don’t wanna be a reason people stay on shitty platforms.

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            … and I don’t wanna be a reason people stay on shitty platforms.

            A powerful point. It’s easy to think you’re just a passive consumer, when really your posts, comments, likes, attention, or even just unintentional algorithm tuning – are all adding value to the platform.

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              People stay because that’s where everyone else is. That’s why I encourage people to at least use multiple places some of which are good so that they can follow you either place

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    They’re going to try to push bot traffic, while keeping actual user numbers hidden. Then dump the stock before saying they banned all their users or someone leaks it. Personally I would like an investigative journalist look into their ban system and do a hit piece.

    The site 15 years ago was great, yes there was trolling, you could call people a asshat, but it was still a good site. Now none of that stuff flies, no joking alowed, it’s like msn comments section. They killed what made reddit great and it was never at the level of 4 chan incels. In fact there quite a few social causes that did some good, all that’s gone. It’s just regurgitated shit.

    It’s no small amount of people who have been permabanned and it’s happening more and more. Some of the oldest accounts are just gone. I gave up even trying to get around it.

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      I think you’ve got it. Reddit’s board of directors know what content they need to sell the most ads, and they don’t want to lose time and profit letting their unpaid employeesusers post content that doesn’t fit their vision. So they fire users who don’t produce the content they want, replace them with AI bots who do produce the content they want, and the product looks the same to advertisers.

      They’ve been doing this for years, of course. Summer 2024 was just an embarrassment of pro- Harris botting and manufactured consensus.

      And come summer 2026 I expect a massive ramp up in pro-Republican AI content, because we know which party can and will pay the most to manufacture that consensus next year.

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      I had my first account for a decade. My next two didn’t last a year. I don’t think I’ll going back. Lemmy doesn’t have niche communities really quite yet but for tech news it’s arrived

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    They banned and nuked all 4 of my accounts ranging from 8yrs to 2yrs old after posting this about 3 weeks ago.

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      Yeah, I was permabanned from Reddit, just for saying, “stomp Nazis.” After this, I deleted the app entirely. I had issues prior to this. Posts I had carefully written and spent time writing, were deleted for using the word “target,” and the word, “shoot.” Both posts had zilch to do with guns or violence. Saying, “oh, shoot” about a funny autocorrect deleted my post. All this censorship, but somehow right wing trolls were still getting away with being jerks to me?! Wtf! Now I think the app is the most heavily censored thing I have ever encountered. It’s unusable, it’s so censored. What am I supposed to do? Go back and say, “spank Nazis,” instead? At a minimum, it would confuse the message and at worst, I’d get banned for saying that. No, I’m mad at Reddit & I’m never going back.

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      thats such a miniscule reason to ban someone that it makes my silly ban seem reasonable

      I pissed off a mod on a large sub and got a ban for “ban evasion” (BS, i only had 1 account)
      I later deleted and recreated my account to change the name I chose when I was like 13 (I kept being called a furry) and forgot to block the large sub and accidentally sent a comment when browsing r/all

      at that point I was like 50/50 with Lemmy so I just hopped all the way over and it’s been about a year since :)

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        I kept being called a furry

        And obviously you’re more of a slimey, eh TriflingToad?