Religion, because they all believe that they are the only ones who are right, and everyone else needs to believe what they believe, or else something bad will come of it.
Isaac Asimov famously said, “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.’”.
The idea that any idea is worth listening to because someone believes in it.
Show me the proof.
I think any idea is worth listening to, it’s the assertion that we must inherently accept their viewpoint as valid that is outright absurd.
I felt this way until recently, when I’m becoming much more aware of how limited our collective attention is. Every honest belief probably deserves to have one (maybe 3) reasonable people listen to it. But they definitely aren’t all worth national/state/city/expert attention.
On the playground sure, but at some level it’s show the receipts first or get fucked up to discourage gish gallop. If we don’t preemptively shut it down, we’re in extreme danger.
I see four downvotes.
Would love to know the position those people have. Are they threatened by their own ignorance being called out? Or are they just conservative?
I’d like to think that they are just mad that they have to see this quote so often these days.
I find this so confusing… it’s like the old saying, “if you don’t want to be called a fascist, don’t be a fascist!”
Conservatives have the strangest contradictions. They want to be all these socially and morally odious things, then get upset when we call them out on those very things.
Islam. A combination of misogyny, oppressive laws, puritanical beliefs, child mutilation, condemnation of curiosity, and a particular focus on growth of numbers by both birth and conversion. Other religions are close behind though.
Edit: Didn’t realise the OP was called Allah, lol
yeah that’s my middle name, i don’t think i can change your mind but i will say this that majority of followers of islam have bad beliefs
If most Muslims have bad beliefs, what’s the common denominator/cause?
any proof that most muslims have bad belief?
You literally said
i will say this that majority of followers of islam have bad beliefs
Didn’t realise the OP was called Allah
Yeah, that and their defence of religion makes me question whether or not they ask this in good faith
I’m surprised by the number of downvotes I got, not that I particularly care about them per se, but the implication that so many people are either Muslim or support Islam on Lemmy is worrying.
i upvoted you even if i disagree because i like to engage opposite of my belief
no i am genuinely curious
Religion
Came here to say fascism, but you win. Religion is worse…
Especially since people use religion to bolster fascism. Fascists love to pander to a nation’s largest religion to lock in their support.
I think of all superstitions as being a microcosmic form of fascism in a way, in that the mouthpiece of the supernatural is the one dictating the rules of right and wrong and what can transcend reality.
some say fascism is a form of religion
I’d say monotheism is the real problem.
I got downvoted to hell last time I expressed my views about religion, but it has served me well for 29 years now (having been born in the shadow of the Vatican), so I am willing to share again:
I work, collaborate, spend time and even sometimes have sex with religious people, all while maintaining the idea that each one of them is akin to a dormant terrorist cell, and that given the right conditions their fundamental distancing from reason and in some cases recognition of undeserved authority can turn against me and everyone else.
I live a subtly tense life, but usually I am already in a safe place when shit hits the fan.
I also have a very wide definition of religion and of priest.
not necessarily
Name an ideological concept that has led to more killing and death then religion…
dogmatism
dogma
/dôg′mə, dŏg′-/
noun
A doctrine or a corpus of doctrines relating to matters such as morality and faith, set forth in an authoritative manner by a religion
…
Natalism?
The certainty of being right.
Why? Because when (any)one is sure to be right it means the other must be wrong and since they’re wrong they probably should not even be allowed to say what they have to say.
I cut a very cherished friend out of my life on Tuesday because of this mentality. When he said “I’m not going to read what you write or consider the point you’re trying to make” the first time it was enough. The second time was too much. I expressed my wish for his life to improve, told him good-bye, and removed/blocked him.
The next morning I woke up to a text claiming I didn’t value his friendship and that he’d be here for me when I got better. That’s when I truly realized how long he’d been disregarding the support and compassion I’d been sending his way.
I spent Tuesday mentally digging a grave for the friendship. I spent Wednesday filling it in, and that night I drank to the loss of a friend and to the health of the man who replaced him.
Look out for number one. Selfishness is at the root of most dangers to humanity.
Fascism. It makes people loose their humanity. Fascists endure anything as long as people outside their group are suffering.
Nazism seem to be the worst since it’s an awful mix of nationalism, imperialism, totalitarianism, state racism, eugenics.
A nazi state basically invades its neighbors and genocide their inhabitants based on race, community or health condition.
So far, only the Third Reich applied it, leading to World War II and the Holocaust, but Japan applied some similar behavior in Asia during WWII.
Bonus point: it doesn’t even oppose capitalism, so rich people can still greed.
Well, Israel seem determined to resurrect it
Oh the irony…
Nazism wasn’t particularly pro- or anti-capitalist as an ideology. Free markets, international finance, and trade weren’t embraced, and private property and businesses were only allowed as long as they aligned with the goals of the state. The government largely dictated production and would nationalize, heavily fine, or even destroy companies that didn’t serve its interests.
Capitalism is well on its way to making the planet uninhabitable so Imma have to go with that.
This is surely the correct answer and for the reason you give.
If we’re honest (and informed - a big ask, here) then we should concede that capitalism has been generally good for our species. A quadrupling of human population at the same time as a doubling in longevity - the numbers don’t lie and they perfectly track the victory of capitalism as the world’s economic system. Leftists don’t want to hear it, but it’s clearly true.
But whatever this ideology did for humanity, it has been a complete disaster for all the other forms of life that we share our planet with. And that fact is going to catch up with us soon enough.
I think capitalism was a great and necessary thing to get humanity to it’s current post-scarcity state. As you said, production and innovation were really aided by capitalism in the early days of man, but now that we have all the shit we need to survive, all it does is deprive those without.
Neoliberalism. The belief that private corporations should be able to do whatever the hell they want, because markets always create the best outcome possible for society.
The result is stuff like the US Opioid Crisis. Purdue Pharma knew that opioid pharmaceuticals were extremely addictive. For decades, executives lies and said it was not addictive. In private, they laughed about victims.
They bribed doctors and dentists to overprescribe it:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/29/health/purdue-opioids-oxycontin.html
https://www.latimes.com/projects/oxycontin-part1/
They also paid think-tanks to defend them and aggressively challenged negative media coverage:
The tobacco companies used the same techniques before western governments cracked down on them.
In many countries, tobacco corporations are using mafia methods:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/12/big-tobacco-dirty-war-africa-market
For neoliberals, the market should decide what is acceptable or not. If there is a market for something, then it should be legal. Citizens or lawmakers should never get involved.
Ignorance.
It’s practiced by many, in alignment with arrogance. Many different flags, cloths, creeds and livelihoods depend on it.
I’d say it isn’t an ideology, but way too many people take pride on being ignorant. so it ends up being one
Neither is this about an ideology per se nor is this quote my own - but I’ve read this somewhere -
“The greatest threat to our planet is the belief that someone else will save it.”
- Robert Swan (British explorer and environmental activist)
misogyny. I’m not saying it causes the most death and harm (though it may), just that I’ve never met or heard of any dangerous ideology where misogyny wasn’t a core element.
Feminism inoculates against fascism.
Any ideology may be dangerous. People who are convinced they’re tuned into a privileged view on reality may be willing to kill others to protect it. Human history is full of proofs of that.
“On the whole I think that knowledge is preferable to ignorance, and I am sure that human sympathy is more valuable than ideology.” — Kenneth Clark
Its not necessarily an ideology but all the worst ideologies have at root a lack of empathy and active methods to extinguish any trace of it. So lack of empathy or the violent suppression of it root and stem
Great, now we have metaideologies.
I go deep
I’ve been warning that the average American lacks empathy for YEARS. Conservatives seemingly lack the ability to feel empathy at all, which is why Musk “warns” that empathy is dangerous.
Look where we are now 🙃
