Normally, I use YouTube very little (watch a couple videos a month). However, I’ve been in bed with an injury for some time now, which has led me to watch quite a bit of YouTube. The thing is, I subscribe to a small handfull of channels that I enjoy content from, but after a relatively short time I had watched pretty much all the new content from those channels.
Now, I would expect that the YouTube algorithm, which is supposedly designed by competent people to get me to stick around, would be able to suggest some decent content to me based on my subscriptions. However, the past week, I’ve opened YouTube only to find the same old videos being suggested over and over. Even worse: Whenever there’s something interesting-looking from a channel I don’t recognise, it always turns out to be some shitty AI voice over some generic animations or footage.
I know for a fact that thousands of hours of content are created on YouTube daily, but it genuinely feels like there are maybe five creators out there that are making anything worth watching. It’s either that, or the YouTube algorithm is just complete crap at suggesting creators that are in any way similar to what I’m already subscribing to.
What’s going on here? Why does it seem like there’s no real content out there?
As a “funny” side note: What’s with the “aggressively American” AI narrator-voice? I’ve heard it before, but thought it was some dude until I realised it’s the same voice in a bunch of unrelated videos. It reminds me of the Discovery-channel “action-narrator”-voice from back in the day, but now it’s showing up in all kinds of crap videos.
my experience is that is def not made by competent people, and i have to train the algorithm by selecting garbage and tell it to shove it up and never recommend it while im alive…and MAYBE in the future im gonna get a watchable video
There is lots of great content on YouTube, but you need to do some work to shake it loose. On the thumbnail page, click on the dots next to the image and choose “not interested” to get rid of the same ones showing repeatedly.
Try searching for terms you are interested in. Once you watch a couple of videos on the same subject, they’ll keep trying to show you more, which one be a good thing or not, depending.
Creators come and go, so finding new ones is an ongoing process.
The algorithm just really sucks. Sometimes it’ll suggest good stuff, but when it next decides to update it’s just all trash for weeks.
What types of videos do you like? I have so much high quality content available I literally cannot watch it all.
I’m constantly adding and removing subscribed channels. A few I added recently with many hours of content are Contrapoints, Tom Nichols, and Ordinary Things. Very informative and entertaining.
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This may be a large part of my problem. I’ve kind of just noted that theres so many people spending so many hours watching youtube, that there must be an abundance of good content. Then again, a decent amount of people are probably content with having some slop on in the background, and a major user-base probably consists of kids watching people scream into the camera. With that in mind, it may not be that unlikely that even with millions of hours of content, there may only be a few thousand actually worth watching if you find it…
People need to learn to subscribe to channels they like and then actually use the subscription tab.
Don’t just let YT suggest videos to you. be active in your content consumption
You can even find extensions to hide the BS that you don’t want. I am using an extension to only show my subscriptions and hide everything I don’t use or want to see such as shorts and the firehose of slop that is now the explore/trending feed.
That’s what I’ve been doing though, and usually it’s not a problem. The issue now is that I’ve been confined to my bed for long enough that I’ve watched all the new content from the channels I subscribe to, and have been hoping that the recommendations would help me find new channels I would be interested in, but alas…
Do you know the “new to you” feature?
It’s agenuinely neat thing by YT, so of course it’s completely hidden away.
In the browser you can find it at the top below the search bar, where you see all the genres:
You just need to scroll aaalllll the way to to right.
I don’t use it often, but the feature is basically a recommendation feed on steroids. Videos in the same style that you already seem to like, but from creators that you haven’t or rarely watched.
I found some real nice gems in there. As well as small creators that are geninely good and would later explode in popularity
Thanks! I’ll check that out!
People don’t use the subscription tab? Why do they subscribe in the first place?
that was my reaction as well.
I did a non-scientific poll in my friendscircle and fedi followers, and aparently only about a quarter of the people even know that “subscriptions” is an actual tab.
They just assume if they subscribe, that it will show up on the home page / main feed somehow.
It absolutely explains the “youtube unsubbed me from you” comments you always see. They never were subscribed in the first place (always saw releases on the home page when YT felt like it). Or they subbed, but never use the sub tab
I didn’t even “see” the subscription tab because for years the home screen had stuff from my subscription.
Now the subscription tab is my home page, mostly thanks to Technology Connections for pointing it out.
The latest vids from my subs always show up on my main feed, I sub to give the creator a number boost, let yt know to put these on my feed, and even with notifications off I will see their latest vid near the top of my feed within a short time of release, sometimes I get the vid posted less than 5 mins before I get back.
That doesn’t work anymore and I say this as a long time user. In the last 5 years their algorithm has gotten worse and worse. I have an extensive subscription list and the junk they push at me these days never matches any of the videos I currently watch. Deleting history and trying to rebuild it doesn’t help. OP’s feelings here is widely held with many users these days.
that’s literally impossible.
The subscriptions tab has been, and still is, only from channels you actively clicked “subscribe” to. If you see trash in there, it’s because you subscribed.
There is 0 algorithm in there.
This is the feed: https://www.youtube.com/feed/subscriptions
It’s not about what you already watch, op wants to find new related videos to watch. YouTube’s algo no longer works that way
Ah, I thought you meant trash stuff showing in your sub feed.
Yes, it has gotten worse, but tbh, it’s not that bad for me. Recommendations still are basically stuff related to what I watch.
There tends to sometimes pop up weird stuff when I click on videos that people send me, but as soon as I remove that video from my history it’s back to normal
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On desktop there’s a vertical triple dot button under videos that allows you to tell the algorithm that you’re not interested in that video or the entire channel. I assume there’s something similar on mobile. That somewhat reduces suggestions like the unwanted video in future.
When you refresh, you’ll see a different page of videos. If you do this to enough videos, you might start getting recommended videos you’ve already watched. You can give that as a reason for not being interested, so you can make those go away as well.
Speaking of which, you can also remove videos from your Watch History to prevent the algorithm from using those as examples. That’s often another way to effectively banish a channel where you only watched the one video.
Be aware that (as far as I know) the only way to undo directly telling YouTube you’re not interested in a channel is to completely erase your Watch History. Maybe finding and watching a few videos of theirs might also work, but I haven’t yet found the need to put that to the test.
There is a lot of garbage out there, but also some really good stuff. I like to stay logged out and clear history occasionally to try to keep from getting too algorithm bubbled. It’s not just automatically filtering content by subject matter, it also filters by length if you watch mostly long form videos you’ll get more long recommendations, and same for short videos. Try using more generic search terms for hobbies, interests, topics, etc you’ll get a little more variety in search results and won’t rely as much on the algorithm to filter recommendations.
O tempora, o mores! A lot of it is Gen-Z/Gen-Alpha youtuber/streamer trash but I’ve found that the recommendations improved after I started subscribing to channels I liked. Once I’d fed the algorithm enough of my tastes it’s started to do a reasonable job of recommending things. Like there’s this Louis Theroux/Vice knock-off called Channel 5 News which have a couple good videos that it just inferred I would enjoy from my history.
I can feel you. YouTube is my “tv” and I’ve been watching it for years. But lately the quality of the suggestions has gone completely out of whack, imo. I scroll through the suggestions and find nothing worth watching. Sometimes i try to improve it by hitting ‘not interested’ or ‘don’t suggest this channel’, but it’s not helping.
Maybe Spez has bribed Google to show us rubbish, so we’d return to Reddit?
It’s actually kind of nice to hear this. You’re the kind of person I was thinking of when I thought to myself that “there must be heaps of decent content out there, because a bunch of people use youtube as their tv”, so if it’s gone to crap for you as well, at least that indicates I’m not just going crazy from lying still for way too long.
I’ve noticed a lot of AI slop being recommended all of a sudden too, not just AI voice stuff but lazy AI generated thumbnails and titles too. I’ve been clicking don’t suggest channel every time it turns up but YouTube is still trying to push it.
The algorithm isn’t there to suggest you something enjoyable to watch.
It is designed to keep you on the site as long as possible by suggesting you what has kept other people on the site longer who also have watched what you watched, maybe.
Use the not interested button very liberally when it recommends you something you don’t want to see.
Or if you have already seen it, but it keeps getting proposed in your list, you can open it, like it, and it will disappear. Works for me at least.
I guess I’ve understood that “keeping me on the site” doesn’t necessarily coincide with “show me stuff I like”, but I honestly thought there was more overlap. I keep scrolling past loads of shit before leaving, and then just being shown the same shit again when I come back. I haven’t really used the “not interested” option, I’ll try that and see if it helps. Thanks for the recommendation!
If you only subscribe to a handful of channels and only watch a couple videos a month, you’re not really giving it much data to work with.
Also use the “Don’t recommend channel” and similar feedback options. I did this two a handful of AI channels and have never gotten a suggestion for them since. Other than that, you have just have to manually find some more content till the algorithm catches up.
I’ve thought of that, but would have thought the algorithm quickly caught up the past weeks when I’ve been watching several videos a day. Then again, I’ve been bored out of my mind watching whatever, so I’ve probably not given it much to work with now either, essentially telling it that I’ll keep scrolling and clicking stuff for quite some time before I leave, no matter what it throws at me…
I’ll try using the “Do not recommend” button more and see if things improve.
Unfortunately, quality content is hard to find on youtube, especially because the algorithm will focus more on already established creators and channels. Videos under 20k views and creators under 1k subs almost never appear, even if they’re better related to what you’re watching than what’s being shown on the sidebar.
One thing you can try is to check the related videos while browsing incognito, or with Piped/NewPipe or Invidious, as these will ensure the recommendations are as “plain new account” as possible.
My personal experience, whenever I watch anything game related while logged in, YT will throw dozens of Brazilian Roblox/Minecraft videos as related, even if I’m watching english videos. I block them, refresh the site and another batch of similar shit shows up. I check the same video on Invidious and a different set of videos show as related.
