• flandish@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    what stops a member of the armed services from denying a command or order if it is unlawful? what about if it may be unlawful? (ie needs to be proven as such but “right now” just smells unlawful?)

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      8 days ago

      Officially the guidance is to comply but document and raise the question after…

      Unofficially if you refuse and make it clear you’re taking the court martial and chain of command folds.

      With this situation the real question is if they standby and watch ICE/cops abuse citizens, or if they interject and stop the violent side.

      The military has much higher standards on what acceptable.

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        8 days ago

        yeah makes sense. i think after the drama from the massacres in vietnam they must have tried to pivot and change tactics in those regards.

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      Indoctrination/brainwashing.

      The official stance is that they SHOULD ask questions and point out their objections… to their superiors. Who will, in turn, raise their own questions. Until it gets to a lifer who doesn’t give a fuck and just wants to burn a family to death so that they can take credit for a successful mission and maybe get promoted in a few years.

      But, in the meantime? It doesn’t matter if you support The Mission. Hell, your NCO doesn’t either. But what matters is that you want to protect the men and women, but mostly men (because women are for raping back at base), in the foxhole next to you. So go get the gas can and follow some orders.