Everyone seems to be complaining about LLMs not actually being intelligent. Does anyone know if there are alternatives out there, either in theory or already made, that you would consider to be ‘more intelligent’ or have the potential to be more intelligent than LLMs?

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    6 days ago

    To answer this sort of question, you first have to ask how one quantifies intelligence in an unbiased and rigorous way.

    For instance, can an LLM be considered intelligent if it speaks like a person but can’t do certain math problems?

    There are lots of niches for non-LLM AI models in tech that aren’t “intelligent” but can do quite a good job when it comes to narrow, well-defined tasks like image recognition, for example.

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        6 days ago

        Don’t miss the forest for the trees. What I’m saying is that, unless you have an objective and well-defined definition for intelligence, it becomes impossible to classify what is or isn’t intelligent.

        The instance i was referring to is the inability of some LLMs to count the occurrence letters in words. Case and point:

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      6 days ago

      I assume most of the people saying LLMs are not intelligent are comparing it to intelligent life, like humans and perhaps even other animals.

      I’m also referring to intelligence in that way. However, if you can think of more ways to express it then I would be open to listening.

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        6 days ago

        I think something you should come away from this thread with, is that we don’t have good or agreed upon definitions of what intelligence are, which makes answering your question really difficult.

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          Yeah, I already have that idea. Discerning intelligence is more of a philosophical discussion and not quite the purpose of this thread.

          I would like to believe that the people proudly saying “AI isn’t intelligent” could also proudly say what intelligence is, but I know that’s expecting too much of average internet users.

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            6 days ago

            “AI isn’t intelligent”

            “Ai isn’t intelligent” is a form of thought-terminating cliché. Its a low effort way of virtue signalling and gatekeeping. And its really bad on lemmy.

            Its not a defense of shitty corporations to be interested in computation, math, machine learning, etc, but must lemmings are well : whispers :, lemmings.