TBH I think they’re right. It has zero chance to result in removal. It has zero chance of passing either house of congress. It just ends up being an ineffective gesture. Save it for when you have some chance of actually changing something.
And how is doing nothing any better? We are literally on the precipice of authoritarianism yet we are still trying to find the right time. People are literally getting picked up off the streets, we are baselessly bombing countries for Israel, we have the national guard and Marines being sent to cities, we are imposing tariffs on our allies, the president is actively and blatantly accepting bribes, we have an incompetent cabinet that is dismantling everything they see, we have a “big beautiful bill” that will ruin people’s lives, we had DOGE hijack all of our data, we have tourists being detained for social media posts, we have people being detained for their free speech, and we have masked men pointing guns at citizens that refuse to identify themselves. So, when is the right time? Is it when it specifically affects them for once? Because if they have to wait that long than we are all fucked.
Of course it has no chance of passing. That has absolutely no bearing on future attempts to impeach the dictator which also will have no chance of passing.
But you know what voting against it does? It tells the American People that the democrats in office support trump completely shitting on everything and unilaterally joining israel in a war.
And why does it have zero chance? Could it be because they oppose it, instead of supporting it? Imagine all Democrats stood together on this and they could get a few Reps over. Even if it would fail, they would send a signal of unity and standing up for what is right, which could get them back some voters the disgruntled with the whole genocide and appeasing fascism thing.
It has zero chance because while is there is already plenty that Trump could be impeached on, and I wish he were, this particular thing is not one of them.
Gerrymandering in the House and vote caging in the Senate, combined with a media that’s the mouthpiece of genocidal billionaires, guarantee Republicans a permanent advantage in Congress no matter how unpopular their leadership becomes.
Imagine all Democrats stood together on this and they could get a few Reps over.
Hardly have to image. That’s exactly what occurred in 2019 and 2021. All the Republicans who defected got primaried out and replaced with MAGAts. Dems who played footsie with your Liz Cheneys and Jeff Flakes ended up poisoning their own electoral campaigns and losing supporters. The horse trading between centrist Dems and Repubs backfired colossally, as the legislature could only do shit people hated, while Nancy and Chuck whined about needing bipartisanship to Beat Trump.
Then Biden took office, Merrick Garland refused to press charges of any sort, and Trump scampered off Scott free to run again in four years.
Let’s say my family is massively in debt. All the other members of my family are trying to find work, or going to local food banks, or planning a budget.
Meanwhile, I am using my time to scrounge in thrift stores and rub every lamp I can find to try to find a genie and magically wish everything better.
You may think my actions are useless, and a waste of time, and that I’m childish for believing it will accomplish anything; but I’m “still doing something as opposed to sitting around” and that makes it OK, right?
All signs are that he still has enough dirt and genuine threats to browbeat the republicans when it matters. There is a lot of argument toward making him do that rather than just assuming he will but that would involve the fucking democrats doing anything.
The only “hope” will be IF we have fair midterm elections and there is a blue wave. Suddenly “only trump can get you reelected” will be forgotten (or, more pointedly, they’ll remember how he has never been able to do that…) and it will just be the die hards who know there is footage of them doing Whatever in moscow.
TBH I think they’re right. It has zero chance to result in removal. It has zero chance of passing either house of congress. It just ends up being an ineffective gesture. Save it for when you have some chance of actually changing something.
And how is doing nothing any better? We are literally on the precipice of authoritarianism yet we are still trying to find the right time. People are literally getting picked up off the streets, we are baselessly bombing countries for Israel, we have the national guard and Marines being sent to cities, we are imposing tariffs on our allies, the president is actively and blatantly accepting bribes, we have an incompetent cabinet that is dismantling everything they see, we have a “big beautiful bill” that will ruin people’s lives, we had DOGE hijack all of our data, we have tourists being detained for social media posts, we have people being detained for their free speech, and we have masked men pointing guns at citizens that refuse to identify themselves. So, when is the right time? Is it when it specifically affects them for once? Because if they have to wait that long than we are all fucked.
Fuck that.
Of course it has no chance of passing. That has absolutely no bearing on future attempts to impeach the dictator which also will have no chance of passing.
But you know what voting against it does? It tells the American People that the democrats in office support trump completely shitting on everything and unilaterally joining israel in a war.
And why does it have zero chance? Could it be because they oppose it, instead of supporting it? Imagine all Democrats stood together on this and they could get a few Reps over. Even if it would fail, they would send a signal of unity and standing up for what is right, which could get them back some voters the disgruntled with the whole genocide and appeasing fascism thing.
But no, they double down on it.
It has zero chance because while is there is already plenty that Trump could be impeached on, and I wish he were, this particular thing is not one of them.
Gerrymandering in the House and vote caging in the Senate, combined with a media that’s the mouthpiece of genocidal billionaires, guarantee Republicans a permanent advantage in Congress no matter how unpopular their leadership becomes.
Hardly have to image. That’s exactly what occurred in 2019 and 2021. All the Republicans who defected got primaried out and replaced with MAGAts. Dems who played footsie with your Liz Cheneys and Jeff Flakes ended up poisoning their own electoral campaigns and losing supporters. The horse trading between centrist Dems and Repubs backfired colossally, as the legislature could only do shit people hated, while Nancy and Chuck whined about needing bipartisanship to Beat Trump.
Then Biden took office, Merrick Garland refused to press charges of any sort, and Trump scampered off Scott free to run again in four years.
Trying for impeachment is still doing something as opposed to sitting around waiting for someone else to do the job.
Let’s say my family is massively in debt. All the other members of my family are trying to find work, or going to local food banks, or planning a budget.
Meanwhile, I am using my time to scrounge in thrift stores and rub every lamp I can find to try to find a genie and magically wish everything better.
You may think my actions are useless, and a waste of time, and that I’m childish for believing it will accomplish anything; but I’m “still doing something as opposed to sitting around” and that makes it OK, right?
It passed the House last time. He’s slowly losing the support of the Republicans. It could pass the Senate.
All signs are that he still has enough dirt and genuine threats to browbeat the republicans when it matters. There is a lot of argument toward making him do that rather than just assuming he will but that would involve the fucking democrats doing anything.
The only “hope” will be IF we have fair midterm elections and there is a blue wave. Suddenly “only trump can get you reelected” will be forgotten (or, more pointedly, they’ll remember how he has never been able to do that…) and it will just be the die hards who know there is footage of them doing Whatever in moscow.