I’m running around in leftist circles a lot since beginning of last year. I first got introduced to socialism through anarchism [stereotype alert] started to read and went pretty straight to communist and then ML pretty recently. The shoe is still new but it fits very well so far.
Whenever I bring up socialism and communism (let alone ML), I get a lot of flak from other leftists and especially from anarchists. Yet, I feel like a couple anarchist agitators sound like MLs just cosplaying. It would make sense as anarc kids are totally open for socialist ideas if one lets out the “science” part which irritates me a lot.
Does anyone have similar experience or is able to explain?
Btw pls let me know if this is inappropriate to ask. I dont mean to offend anyone.
So I should start by saying I’m not a Communist (albeit many of my ideas are technically “socialist”, and I took a quiz once to make sure) but that I don’t disrespect Communists as the stereotype shows. There are several mindsets and Communism is just another mindset. For me, the “feeling” of red scare doesn’t come from their ideas, it comes from the pushiness experienced. I have been on the receiving end of several difficult times simply because I had even minor disagreements with Communists, such as whether anyone should be advocating assassinations (I don’t think so). When I see a whole swath of people cheering for some guy who travelled to NYC to eliminate someone who was actually himself trying to fix a system he was put in charge of, it is without any doubt in the world that I’m going to have serious misanthropic contemplations. Even though, yes, some seem to be veiling themselves in some way to escape the fear factor, often with emphasis on anarchist elements as you say, that doesn’t solve the issue. You’re all potential friends, and I just want peace between us.
This must be rage bait
I’m confused. I was responding to the part of the question about confrontations and people disguising themselves and explaining that there was more to it than that. What did I do wrong?
What?
There are maybe a few hundred people (if not a few thousand) in this ML community. For every one person who thinks what happened was overkill, another five are praising the killer, hence the memes that paint him as a literal saint. Surely an unreluctance for violence isn’t a pillar or prerequisite for Marxist-Leninism (especially in a discussion about people hiding their affiliations), right? I’m not cheering for either side, but one side resorted to murder when they could’ve, I don’t know, sued.
Are you really crying for the united healthcare ceo? That is so pathetic. “oh we should all be nice and let the rich peope steal from us and lie to us. We should all just be peaceful as they grind us into the mud with police that murder people without consequences and make laws that slowly make any form of opposition illegal.”
You disgust me boot licker.
This is the kind of thing I am referring to and which brings us to the OP’s situation to start out with. The way things ended, especially when the killer wasn’t even insured with the person’s insurance or could’ve just sued, isn’t the way to go.
People often worry the democratic process isn’t functional, correct? Well, the way to deal with things peacefully was wide open, and the killer instead opted for something to make a statement, presumably for the fame (according to all the psychoanalysis, though I don’t pretend that’s infallible).
God damn. Your words are like feces laced with aspartame.
Too bad you waste your rhetorical skills on standing up for the damned. I suppose you’ll enjoy hell along with the people you defend.
I’m not standing up for the damned. I’m standing up to overkill. Not sure how me describing precision of justice should earn my words the adjectives you give them, not to mention my denomination doesn’t even adhere to regular notions of Hell.
So you stand up for people who worship mammon and you follow a false gospel? Either way you are headed for an eternity of sorrow and teeth gnashing.
You say that like you aren’t, by definition, standing up for murderers. I am what one might call dual denomination (“denomination” one being “Aiken” which is the world’s most LGBT-friendly “sect”, the other being Australian aboriginal folk Christianity which often blends with LDS tradition in Australian form), and both traditions warn against dependence on violence and the value of diplomacy. I will say again I don’t support the victim wholly, but that how things happened was excessive.
You are confusing “Murder” with “Killing.” There is no commandment against killing in war. It is not “over kill” to use violence against the cult of mammon. It is not “Murder” to kill in class war.
You say they warn against the dependence on violence but that does not preclude its necessity. You are just a coward who would uphold the right of evil men to prosper by abusing the just instead of working to bring those men to justice. You are a lazy heretic who warps the teachings of justice to protect sinners rather than help the poor. You will surely be held to account for your apostasy in this life or the next.
That assumes class war is war in any way aside from name. In this particular instance, death was definitely a premature outcome. Nothing else was even tried.
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Oh. Thanks, friend. I wasn’t in the know.