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silence7@slrpnk.netM to Climate - truthful information about climate, related activism and politics.@slrpnk.netEnglish · 2 days ago

The Trump budget proposes $0 for climate research in 2026

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The Trump budget proposes $0 for climate research in 2026

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silence7@slrpnk.netM to Climate - truthful information about climate, related activism and politics.@slrpnk.netEnglish · 2 days ago
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  • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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    No voting protest voters are a tiny proportion of the no voters.

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      90 million registered voters didn’t vote, the most in US history. Please share what you have that points to the protest vote being a small percentage of that 90 million.

      I’d love to see hard data, if it exists. Not holding my breath.

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        Please share what you have that points to the protest vote being a small percentage of that 90 million.

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncommitted_National_Movement

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          You’re assuming the amount of people that signed their little pointless petition is 1:1 with those that actually protest voted because memes told them to.

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            I have evidence of at least 700k protesters.

            What evidence do you have?

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              It’s common knowledge that protest voters didn’t vote. It’s even in the name. You are making the claim that it’s an insignificant amount.

              The burden of proof is on the one making the claim. That’s you, buddy.

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                You are making the claim that it’s an insignificant amount.

                Are you making the claim that all 120mn that didn’t vote were protesters?

                Likewise, you cannot make the claim that an entire group is something. You need proof to substantiate your positive claim, not the negative. I have given my proof already

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                  I don’t know where you get the 120 from, but that’s also not the claim I’m making.

                  1. Stop putting words in my mouth.
                  2. Leave the strawman alone and read more carefully.
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                    I don’t know where you get the 120 from

                    Keep up:

                    https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results,_2024

                    https://ballotpedia.org/Voter_turnout_in_United_States_elections

                    It’s common knowledge that protest voters didn’t vote.

                    All non-voting eligible voters != Protest voters.

                    There can be more motivations than just dissatisfaction with the choices on the ballot.

                    You as equating the two. You are wrong.

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        66% turnout rate in 2020 64% turnout rate in 2024

        So about 8 million less voters. Let’s assume there are all protest voters.

        So less than 10% of non voters did so as a protest.

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          Thank you. 10% is a significant amount.

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            The bigger piece of the pie is the other 90%.

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              Statistically, 10% is significant.

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                That is not a phrase.

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                  In the world of statistics anything over 5% is often considered statistically significant. How significant depends on context.

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                    The phrase used in statistics is “p-values **below ** %5 are significant”.

                    This refers to uncertainty around a parameter value. Not the proportional sample size.

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