I guess some people thought it was AI, but just a cool moment in my basement window well.

Edit: taken with my iPhone several years ago since that’s all I had with me when it happened so quickly.

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    I remember trying to warn people on Reddit that their anti-AI crusades were going to hurt real people making real art, especially surrealists, and got banned from a bunch of art subs for being “pro-AI” as a result. Actually, they phrased it in far more hurtful and inflammatory ways, like “advocating theft.” Apparently caring about not hurting real human beings making real human art is “advocating theft.”

    I don’t miss Reddit. That place was bad for my mental health.

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      Well, also AI is hurting actual human beings. We should be fighting against it too. Yeah, be careful of crossfire, but it doesn’t mean you shouldn’t fire at all.

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      It’s the same thing for writing. Use a single emdash and you get accused of using LLMs. It’s like, no, I’m literate. I read books. Sorry for paying attention in class…

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      People gonna pitchfork. I figure there are enough communities to peruse, getting banned by an overactively axe-grinding mod now and then isn’t a biggie. LPT: it’s not a reddit thing, those same mods are here too.

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      It’s the same shit on lemmy

      I was watching a video yesterday where the video author said it was sketchy that another ytber had used an AI voice but still credited the original voice actor the Ai voice was based on, the voice actor also chimed in that they agreed and were still being paid even though the AI voice was being used.

      Literally every time I see arguments against AI from creative it’s because losing income/stealing, he hit both those and yet that is still not good enough.

      The goal posts will ever shift and the rage will never end.

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        I got banned from a fandom subreddit for pointing out that a certain fan remaster was (partially, with tons of manual work) made with ML models. Specifically with oldschool GANs, and some smaller, older models as part of a deinterlacing pipeline, from before ‘generative AI’ was even a term.

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        In my own anecdotal experience, it’s been a lot better here, but I’m sure instance, communities, etc all have an impact. I have noticed a slight uptick in toxicity recently, but once I started using Voyager’s tagging feature I realized the perpetrators are almost always the same 4 people.

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      It’s the people who impersonate art with slop who deserve the blame for the confusion, not the people who object to the slop.

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        If the people who object to slop figuratively crucify real human artists for creating real human art, then they are the baddies.

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          A careless false accusation is a bad thing, but not as bad as creating the situation of fucking up the culture in the first place.

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        You can see particles on the concrete wall in the background. You can see how the physical objects in the image interact with one another. AI is good at replicating compositions, but you spot it by the details. At least, for now. This image is definitely real.

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      I get these kind of reactions on Lemmy all the time. I say something that isn’t the exact party line, people assume I’m their worst enemy even though our disagreement is very minor in the broad scheme.

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        There’s always an US vs THEM element to any culture, but to me it seems like there’s been a relatively recent social trend (as in like the last decade) that anybody who isn’t jumping up and down waving pompoms for the one right side of an issue is presumed to be an extremist for the polar opposite wrong side, and all their other views about the world and their overall way of life are probably also despicable. It’s very simple binary thinking and works well with memes - minimal information to take in, quick and easy to process, one obvious right answer. It also fits gaming mindset very well - is this NPC on my side or should I kill him?

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          This really fits my two hot takes about how we need to fix the left:

          • (1) end purity tests: an imperfect ally is still an ally.
          • (2) we need to appeal to centrists more; ± straight cis white men feel alienated when we talk about privilege as though it’s a bad thing. We could talk about privilege as though it’s a great thing that you should be proud of instead. Then we’d have privileged allies, which would be really helpful.
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            I think item 1 would be enough to vastly improve the left’s appeal to centrists, many of whom are just liberals other liberals call centrist for not being liberal enough. Perfection is the enemy of progress.

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      Thank you! And yes, I mean I realize it’s a two sided battle. I legitimately hate gen AI and what it was done to the art world. My current career is in the process of being completely devoured by AI and taking photos is something that brings me a lot of joy and connects me to the real world, so it’s infuriating to have both the loss of my career and denigration of my photography due to AI.

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      I don’t miss Reddit. That place was bad for my mental health.

      Same i remember it was Toxic

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      Real talk! I got banned for “advocating violence”. Anyone who knows me would find that fucking laughable at best, and completely dishonest at worst. Been a few months now and I can sense an improvement in myself. I get more shit done and hate people a lot less.