I guess some people thought it was AI, but just a cool moment in my basement window well.

Edit: taken with my iPhone several years ago since that’s all I had with me when it happened so quickly.

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    The default subs are controlled by people involved with karma farming. Some of them are so bad that the mods will ban anyone with a high number of upvotes to prevent them from competing with the bots.

    Funny enough, I bet the same mods will let a bot report your pic in a few months.

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    Since the light is hitting things just right, probably put some random objects or action figures in there to see if people notice. Every day is a new story! Cool picture by the way.

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    “Obviously” has been a conclusive reason to condemn things since social media began. So of course “obviously AI” falls under that impeccable standard.

    Also just curious, is taking photos with an iPhone something people apologize for now? I don’t keep up with all the latest acceptibility rules.

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      It was more to denote the presence of Apple’s processing algorithms, which are possibly part of why people think it’s AI or painted. Lots of people on Reddit thought it was a painting and some pointed to the painterly look of details when zoomed into.

      Lots of discussion about that being the result of Apple’s fusion algo, which merges many rapidly taken exposures to eliminate noise, at the expense of real detail.

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        Very interesting, thanks for the explanation. To me it’s kind of pathetic that people feel such a compulsion to be cops instead of just enjoying a nice image.

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      I took it as them sharing the hardware specs for other curious photographers, but you might be on to something.

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    I can see why, it looks AI as hell…

    I think it looks nice. AI or not.

    I’d have to stare at it for longer than I have to decide if it’s AI. So until I can do that, I’m going to trust the OP until I can verify their claims.

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        It’s not AI.

        There’s one big tell that I don’t think AI is advanced enough to replicate.

        Op took this picture though a window that had multiple panes of glass. So there’s an echo of the image from the secondary reflections between the panes of glass.

        I also can’t spot and of the debris in the shot blending into itself. Everything seems to be complete objects.

        But that reflection? I’ve never seen AI do anything like that.

        In case anyone doesn’t quite see what’s going on here, the image is taken from inside (lights seem to be off from where the camera is), through thermal glass into a concrete window space, which is common for places that have basements so the window can serve as an emergency exit (even if you need to break it to get out)…

        Looks like there’s some kind of evergreen tree not far from where the window is, given the debris in the photo.

        Great shot OP.

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    Lol when I first saw iPhone my brain read it as the default signature iPhones put in emails.

    Sent from my iPhone.

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    I remember trying to warn people on Reddit that their anti-AI crusades were going to hurt real people making real art, especially surrealists, and got banned from a bunch of art subs for being “pro-AI” as a result. Actually, they phrased it in far more hurtful and inflammatory ways, like “advocating theft.” Apparently caring about not hurting real human beings making real human art is “advocating theft.”

    I don’t miss Reddit. That place was bad for my mental health.

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      It’s the same thing for writing. Use a single emdash and you get accused of using LLMs. It’s like, no, I’m literate. I read books. Sorry for paying attention in class…

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      People gonna pitchfork. I figure there are enough communities to peruse, getting banned by an overactively axe-grinding mod now and then isn’t a biggie. LPT: it’s not a reddit thing, those same mods are here too.

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      It’s the same shit on lemmy

      I was watching a video yesterday where the video author said it was sketchy that another ytber had used an AI voice but still credited the original voice actor the Ai voice was based on, the voice actor also chimed in that they agreed and were still being paid even though the AI voice was being used.

      Literally every time I see arguments against AI from creative it’s because losing income/stealing, he hit both those and yet that is still not good enough.

      The goal posts will ever shift and the rage will never end.

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        I got banned from a fandom subreddit for pointing out that a certain fan remaster was (partially, with tons of manual work) made with ML models. Specifically with oldschool GANs, and some smaller, older models as part of a deinterlacing pipeline, from before ‘generative AI’ was even a term.

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        In my own anecdotal experience, it’s been a lot better here, but I’m sure instance, communities, etc all have an impact. I have noticed a slight uptick in toxicity recently, but once I started using Voyager’s tagging feature I realized the perpetrators are almost always the same 4 people.

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      It’s the people who impersonate art with slop who deserve the blame for the confusion, not the people who object to the slop.

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        If the people who object to slop figuratively crucify real human artists for creating real human art, then they are the baddies.

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          A careless false accusation is a bad thing, but not as bad as creating the situation of fucking up the culture in the first place.

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        You can see particles on the concrete wall in the background. You can see how the physical objects in the image interact with one another. AI is good at replicating compositions, but you spot it by the details. At least, for now. This image is definitely real.

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      I get these kind of reactions on Lemmy all the time. I say something that isn’t the exact party line, people assume I’m their worst enemy even though our disagreement is very minor in the broad scheme.

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        There’s always an US vs THEM element to any culture, but to me it seems like there’s been a relatively recent social trend (as in like the last decade) that anybody who isn’t jumping up and down waving pompoms for the one right side of an issue is presumed to be an extremist for the polar opposite wrong side, and all their other views about the world and their overall way of life are probably also despicable. It’s very simple binary thinking and works well with memes - minimal information to take in, quick and easy to process, one obvious right answer. It also fits gaming mindset very well - is this NPC on my side or should I kill him?

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          This really fits my two hot takes about how we need to fix the left:

          • (1) end purity tests: an imperfect ally is still an ally.
          • (2) we need to appeal to centrists more; ± straight cis white men feel alienated when we talk about privilege as though it’s a bad thing. We could talk about privilege as though it’s a great thing that you should be proud of instead. Then we’d have privileged allies, which would be really helpful.
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      Thank you! And yes, I mean I realize it’s a two sided battle. I legitimately hate gen AI and what it was done to the art world. My current career is in the process of being completely devoured by AI and taking photos is something that brings me a lot of joy and connects me to the real world, so it’s infuriating to have both the loss of my career and denigration of my photography due to AI.

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      I don’t miss Reddit. That place was bad for my mental health.

      Same i remember it was Toxic

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      Real talk! I got banned for “advocating violence”. Anyone who knows me would find that fucking laughable at best, and completely dishonest at worst. Been a few months now and I can sense an improvement in myself. I get more shit done and hate people a lot less.

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    I got banned because I told everybody who was mocking that retarded weather guy to stop mocking him.

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    TIL what a window well is. I would honestly love to see what it looks like from outside. Is there some kind of covered up grate on top?

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      Here it is several years later. It’s an office that I rent. The landlord apparently does not care about maintaining the windows.

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        I was so confused by the image initially as I hadn’t seen a window well that deep before. This follow-up picture made it all click, thanks for sharing.

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      Sometimes. The smaller (typical?) ones tend to either be fully covered or have a grate. Many are big enough to stand in, to have plants/garden, or even be used as emergency exits. And might not have any covering.

      This one almost definitely had a grate of some kind.

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      Right? I don’t get it. They gave no reason except pointing to a rule that stated no posting someone else’s work as your own. Which obviously was not the case here. But they did not respond to a request to look into it.

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    I have a mental image of you in a basement sweatshop in Philadelphia- the air is full of smoke and there’s a constant barrage of German speeches and gunfire being played over the loudspeaker, broken only by the occasional steam whistle. You take a longing glance out the window, wishing you were on one of the higher floors so you could jump. And there is it.

    Pinecone.