The Senate has passed a bill making Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) the U.S.'s largest interior law enforcement agency with funding for Donald Trump’s immigration enforcement agenda higher than most of the world’s militaries, including Israel’s.

Pending its passage in the House of Representatives, Trump’s bill could mean a massive increase in ICE funding as part of an immigration enforcement agenda worth $150 billion over four years.

This figure is more than the annual military budget of Italy, which at $30.8 billion, is the world’s 16th highest defense spender for this year according to tracker Global Fire Power.

It is also higher than military spending for Israel, ($30 billion), the Netherlands ($27 billion) and Brazil ($26.1 billion).

  • KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca
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    7 hours ago

    What a stupid thing to waste money on.

    You could save some of that money and just enforce rules and fines on the people who hire undocumented workers. You’ll get money from fines and people will stop hiring those without papers. It’s almost like the problem will take care of itself.

    Oh wait, that’s right. This is all about hurting brown people, breaking up families, throwing sick kids in cages, and making them suffer.

    Nevermind.

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      I’d like to see them crack down on employers who pay substandard wages no matter who they’re trying to exploit. It does not bother me that anyone is hiring illegal immigrants specifically.

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        But, but it’s not the poor employers fault for taking advantage of illegal immigrants. That would be very unfair to our glorious job creators. /s

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      O, we did this…and we decreased our revenue through tax cuts…while we sorta made up for that by fucking over millions of Americans in the process…but…the rich…will be richer…so thats nice.

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      It’s a bit more than that. ICE can act outside the constitution within 100 miles of the border. We’ve really only seen this with warrantless searches but that’s gonna expand.

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    But we can’t afford to feed kids or have medical care or research for cancers and diseases or build housing for everyone.

    But we can buy expensive bombs galore to drop on families and build concentration camps.

    Neat.

    So, when do we all stop paying taxes and stop going to work and bring the whole system crashing down to stop this madness?

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    If you want to put 250m subjects under the boot, you simply need a well-funded American GeStaPo.

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    Is anyone still pretending ICE is about immigration? ICE is Trump’s SS, and they just got funding beyond any dictator’s wildest dreams. Good luck with your totalitarian police state.

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        The real problem will likely end up being that civilians can’t own the firepower the US military/police have, legally. No full auto, no giant drums, no grenades, no missiles, no fighter jets. Even if it were a “well-regulated militia” one fighter/bomber could take them all out, and be marketed on some made up news articles as, “we stopped the terrorists, you’re safe now.”

        If it really came down to it, such a battle would be very one-sided, so it would have to be more strategic guerilla tactics.

        Oh, and the SS just got a huge budget increase, so that won’t help. (As seen above.)

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        That’s how it was supposed to be, until the Right co-opted firearms as an entire personality, and the liberal response was to spread ignorance, miseducation, and fear about them so that their party branding looked different enough.

        So now all the insecure, hateful, scared-of-everybody violence-fantasists are armed, knowledgeable, and stocked.

        And those that would oppose authoritarianism en masse were force-fed “Only cops and the military should be armed and the rest of us should just wish they didn’t exist”.

        So they’re now largely rendered toothless and clawless normies who think flash hiders, rail grips, and black paint make a weapon “more lethal.” And don’t know what to do with themselves if pickets and law systems don’t have an effect.

        Meanwhile the “patriotic” bullies ramble about “freedom” and “small government” whilst simping for their fascist overlords unopposed by any actual threat.

        Like most loud bullies, most are the types that would likely break if met with any actual opposition that could do them harm.

        I don’t want to see it come to this, but we need to educate and train ourselves before it’s too late. The threat alone might be enough to put them in their place.

        It’s very clear nobody is coming to save us from this worsening state of affairs.

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        Its probably time we all become the gun nuts at least while they still let us

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          There were already talks in the p2025 circles about ceasing civilian firearms in some fashion and then allowing “permits” at some future time for “loyal” gun owners. Wouldn’t be surprised if they’ll still try it.

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    Seems like it’s time to for people to learn about sustained direct action campaigns.

    Rev Left Radio had a great interview earlier this year with a member of Palestine Action about their extremely successful direct action campaign against Israeli weapons manufacturer Elbit. While the media would have you believe that Palestine Action is an ineffective bunch of clowns, they have already forced the closure of two weapons factories in England and forced Barclays Bank to divest from Elbit through sustained sabotage campaigns. Their incredible success is the actual reason the UK government has named them a terrorist organization, not just for spray painting some planes.

    https://revolutionaryleftradio.libsyn.com/size/5/?search=Palestine+action

    For legal reasons, I am not encouraging anyone to break any laws.

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    Good, service guarantees citizenship and the way things are going, the Greatestest and Bestest Democraciest Peaciest and Freedomest Country in the Whole Wide Universe will need some cannon fodder highly qualified personnel.

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    also less organized and disciplined, these are also going to be filled with military rejects too, not good enough for the military types.

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      There are cops, who are bad enough in general and then there are those that couldn’t become cops. If you can’t make that cut imagine what you can do now that you’re Gestapo.

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      Even more so when you remember that the original “we need to get rid of all those immigrants” argument stemmed from migrants costing the country too much money.

      Trillions for deportation. Not one penny for infrastructure or social services.

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    Well we were the most prosperous country in the world while being racist to the hilt. I’m guessing the GOP thinks that might be the secret sauce.

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    We’re probably nearing the point where Americans will start trying to get over the border wall and into Mexico.

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      Honestly been looking into it. If things go south enough, I’ve thought about driving down that way. Closer than Canada. I’d have to get through Texas, but teaching math in Mexico City sounds nice.

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        My brother lived in Mexico City about a decade ago. We’re from the US. MC always had a bad rep, but like many things, it was overblown. Worst part of the city is the traffic. Public transport can be a little tight. Gotta get used to whatever lives in the water. Otherwise, I always enjoyed visiting. There was the one time there was an earthquake while I was on the roof of a high-rise, we don’t get those in Jersey, but that’s a fluke.

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        In Mexico right now. It’s beautiful, the people are friendly, cost of living is easily half that of the States, and the food is spectacular.

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          What’s rent for a one bedroom apartment? My Spanish isn’t great but it’s tolerable. Any science or math teacher openings in your area lol?

          I imagine border security into the country is easier than the other way around.

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            What’s rent for a one bedroom apartment?

            Pretty wide range depending on neighborhood and quality. I’m in Condesa, so it’s in the $600-1200 USD range. You can definitely find cheaper.

            I imagine border security into the country is easier than the other way around.

            It’s not really an issue in Mexico City.

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      I was gonna say. Things might be different if I was in poverty and in central America, but for the rest of us the US just seems like a real awful place to be.

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        I can totally see this coming.

        The developed world has a population growth problem. Population growth has slowed or reversed in many countries, but the global economy is designed around infinite growth, fed by an infinitely growing pool of workers and customers. Then when they retire they can be taken care of by the infinitely growing population of young people.

        It takes zero imagination to picture this administration forcing “high value human resources” to remain in the country, including putting them on no fly lists. Unfortunately since they are stupid, the brain drain has already started.

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          This goes nicely with abortion bans, criminalization of life choices that don’t produce babies, and the disenfranchisement of women.