• Maalus@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    And there it is, everything is NATOs fault. If only we gave everything to Russia, the world would be saved.

    Tell me, why are there no more Tatars in Crimea?

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      8 hours ago

      This is like URSS bingo:

      1. They were deported

      2. They were starved to death

      3. They were sent to war

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      7 hours ago

      Tell me, why are there no more Tatars in Crimea?

      There are, in fact, Tatars in Crimea.

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        5 hours ago

        Compared to before, no, there aren’t. There has been an ongoing genocide since the tsarist times, that the soviet union “finished”. Thousands of people completely relocated. That’s why people are “wary” of Russia - because it is a genocidal state since time immemorial.

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          4 hours ago

          Compared to before, no, there aren’t.

          Well, that can be said about Greeks and Armenians in Crimea as well as Crimean Tatars. That’s because after Stalin’s forced movement to Kazakhstan (which is barbaric act, of course) or wherever, when descendants of those people were allowed to return, they were more likely to move elsewhere in the union. And after 1991 Greeks would often repatriate, well, to Greece, changing the ethnic character of the whole Russian and Ukrainian Black Sea coast, and Crimean Tatars to Turkey.

          I think you also underestimate the role of Sevastopol. Purely due to strategic importance there’d be people coming from all parts of the empire and the union, and the “melting pot culture” there was Russian.

          There has been an ongoing genocide since the tsarist times,

          That’s a weird way to say this, before Crimea becoming part of the Russian Empire the actual Crimean Khanate didn’t exist for too long. It seems you have a misconception of Crimean Tatars being some sort of the native population of Crimea. They were not. They were a nomad vassal state to the Ottoman Empire, conquerors themselves. They weren’t the majority there ethnically under that khanate either.

          That’s why people are “wary” of Russia - because it is a genocidal state since time immemorial.

          That’s gross from someone who’s likely a US-American or a European. Also “time immemorial” doesn’t quite mean what you seem to think.