• imrighthere@lemmy.ca
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    19 hours ago

    I will always be hated for this but fascism is necessary.

    The chode you are asking said this a week ago.

    • Axiochus@lemmy.world
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      19 hours ago

      Fuck Putin and his war, but you took that person’s quote out of context. They said that fascism is an integral part of capitalism, not that it’s great. Just that it makes systemic sense for fascism to crop up under capitalism. Maybe I’m misreading it.

      • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.com
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        17 hours ago

        You’re absolutely right. The person is trying to character assassinate me. They’re either really misunderstanding what I’m talking about or deliberately trying to smear me.

        • idiomaddict@lemmy.world
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          18 hours ago

          I will always be hated for this but fascism is necessary. It is the whip of the owning class. As long as you have capitalism, you have fascism.

          In more detail if you wish:

          Normal society: Person make chair, person sell chair, person eat

          Thats the “natural” way of things.

          Capitalism:Person make chair, person get tiny cut of chair because [mArKeTiNg cOsT, responsibility, land ownership and other bogus excuses], person eat less, capitalist eat more.

          People dont really accept this because it is not natural or fair. Therefore you need a couple of things, depending on the stage of capitalism:

          the carrot (you will have your own house! you will buy cool things! you can be rich!)

          the veil (propaganda, telling you why it is the only thing that works, why you just need to comply, because compliance will be rewarded…)

          the stick (a militarized police force that will shoot you if you dont comply)

          As you can see, all western states are currently going down the “military disguised as police” route. Why do you think that is? It is because the capitalists want more yachts.

          And after 100 years of propaganda, we actually believe there never has been a better system.

          Have a great day.

          That’s the full quote, I really don’t see how you’re reading this and thinking they support fascism (or capitalism, for that matter). It’s not great phrasing, but it looks to be an indictment of capitalism on the grounds that it relies on deceiving and abusing the populace.

          Was it edited or can you explain how you’re interpreting it?

      • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.com
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        17 hours ago

        Of course you didnt because I said this in a sarcastic comment somewhere. As in, capitalism needs fascism as its whip.