• madcaesar@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    This is why you need government. This is why you need regulations.

    Corporations are evil pieces of shit that would have you watch ads without seatbelts and without air bags.

    They’d grind you and your entire family into a powder if it made them a few bucks.

    Fuck Jeep and their shitty tin cars.

  • Snapz@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Maybe we just throw an ad on the windshield… Like a little one… Off to the side?

  • SulaymanF@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I completely crossed off all GM cars due to lack of CarPlay. I am boycotting Tesla. I don’t trust BMW because they tried to make heated seats a subscription. Now Jeep and Stellantis?

    • SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today
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      2 months ago

      Something to consider…

      Elon may be going down a conservative rabbit hole these days, but this is the sort of thing Tesla would never ever ever do. And things like using the telematic system to sell your location and speed to insurance companies. Never happened on a Tesla. You may not like the guy, but the cars are fucking solid.

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        2 months ago

        Oh, he’s just going down a rabbit hole! He’s going on a cute little adventure where he does a fucking Nazi salute in front of the whole country, then proceeds to recklessly dismantle huge parts of the US government, but it’s all just part of his magical little journey! Teehee!

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      2 months ago

      I wonder how hard it would be to make an open source car brain that can be a drop-in replacement for the commercial ones?

      • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
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        2 months ago

        Hard, even stuff from 10 years ago have proaitary hardware across multiple “brains”.

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          2 months ago

          I drive a 2006. I have physical buttons and a shifter where my hand can lean on. Its great. lol

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            2 months ago

            I think anything 2008 and before is kinda a sweet spot for car driving quality. After the subprime crisis its like all the car makers went to shit.

  • The Menemen!@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    They really do take 80s and 90s dystopian movies as inspiration. Almost funny how ridiculous unimaginatively evil that are.

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    2 months ago

    This is why used cars are so dang expensive, it seems like automobile quality has been in a free fall since 2008. The end user experience gets worse while the price goes up.

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      2 months ago

      Early 2000s jap cars are unkillable, surplus of parts, and are not tracker spyware nests. Great little things for sure. My 90s turboed volvo is a far more temperamental beast, but I cherish her quirks :)

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        2 months ago

        Right now my car is an 84. With a back up 86 truck. I used to have a 2011 subaru, but hit an prairie antelope with it. If I had my pick I think 1990-2008 Japanese cars are the sweet spot.

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            2 months ago

            No, The issue is with conceptions of auto safety becoming a selling point. For example look at the single biggest invention in reducing crash fatality? You would think maybe airbags, seat belts or ABS brakes… But nope, collapsible steering columns. But we are now sold “death proof” SUVs that are not really safer, in some ways worse. The issue is that safety devices have a diminishing return but fear is a great selling point, I would say there are old things that are death traps (like square body chevys) and things like saabs that I would say are to this day built safer then new cars. If we look at the data for auto fatalities per capita we can see that car safety has not had some magical jump since the late 80s but a more expected gradual change.

            As a side note I do and have done a lot of driving and from what I have seen in the last 20 plus years is a slide into cars that are:

            • Top heavy (bigger is not safer)
            • Have little to no visibility (that then try to make up for with back up cameras)
            • Are built not to avoid crashing but to make crashing more comfortable
            • Have limited to no driving feed back and over reliance on things like traction control
            • Make driving on the same road with them more dangerous (just look at north american headlights)

            At the end of the day I would rather drive a car that I can see out of and has a degree of safety devices (seat belts, collapsible steering column, working brakes) then something that is built like a living room on low profile tires that I will at some point crash. Bonus points if it does not explode or catch fire easily (think pintos or teslas).

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                2 months ago

                Yes, But this is my point. You are sharing a video from “CAR TV” who’s tag line is “Watch New Model Cars With Pleasure 🎬” Its very much selling the idea that newer is safer, but the data only shows a slight increase in safety (and nothing on rate of crashes old vs new). In the video they show the two cars crashing but no data at all, the 1998 one from what I can see looks non fatal (seatbelt held, engine block not in lap, steering wheel not impaling chest) but not only do they say “The test showed the driver of the older Corolla would likely have died as a result of the 64km/h collision” they also don’t show that data. Even when looking for sources I get almost no where, this stinks.

                Oh and in the little write up they say “ROAD safety experts have renewed calls for drivers to get behind the wheel of newer cars after an unprecedented crash test revealed shocking results.” Why do they write ROAD in all caps? Is this a special interest group? A lobbyist? No idea I can’t even check since there are no sources!

                I am not saying newer cars don’t have more safety built in, I am saying its a matter of finding what level you are comfortable in and to not get suckered into needless fear over your cars safety rating while the average driver does not even maintain their car’s brakes.

                • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world
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                  2 months ago

                  …not get suckered into needless fear over your cars safety rating while the average driver does not even maintain their car’s brakes.

                  Personally if my brakes are fucked I want all the other safety features I can get.

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      2 months ago

      Furthermore: Slashdot still exists? And it still has an active community in the comments!?

      Lemmy alone hasn’t been enough to replace reddit for me; I should see if I still remember my old password…

      • AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de
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        The site is still there, but the comment sections are no longer fun nor do you find intelligent feedback as frequently as you could in the early days. Last time I was poking around there, the mods were upvoting climate denial comments. So much for science. (source: low uid)

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      Not a chance. The new ‘infotainment’ clusters integrate necessary features like climate control to prevent aftermarket replacements in most vehicles. I honestly don’t know if any manufacturers even use the single and double DIN standards anymore.

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        2 months ago

        Mazda is supposedly one of the last major automakers that has mostly physical controls in their cars. Definitely at the top of my list for any future car purchases.

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          My 2023 Mazda has a touch screen but you never actually have to touch it. In fact, they put it far enough away that it is difficult to touch while driving and disable the touch when the car is moving. There are knobs and buttons in-between the front seats that control it. Also none of the important stuff is controlled through the infotainment system, it is just settings, satnav, and radio (or Android Auto/carplay). Not having to interact with a touch surface while driving is one of my favorite features of my car, and there are a lot of other things that I love about it too.

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      No, it’s considered distracted stopping. /s

      Same damn diffence in my book, fuck Jeep for that shit!

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    Imagine pulling up to a red light, checking your GPS for directions, and suddenly, the entire screen is hijacked by an ad. That’s the reality for some Stellantis owners. Instead of seamless functionality, drivers are now forced to manually close out of ads just to access basic vehicle functions.

    Oh HELLLLL no. I hope my 2012 Subaru will last until I’m either dead or too old to drive. I don’t even want to have these damn screens for the usual shit you have to do on them. I want to be able to do everything with physical controls, no eavesdropping, and no dependence on a fucking app or touchscreen to operate anything in my car! I will drive my car while wearing mittens! shakes fist

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        Aw yeah, 14mpg, two distinct oil leaks, and cabins full of mold because the vintage weather strips failed forty years ago. (I drive a late 90s pickup and am acutely aware of the tradeoffs that come with older cars, even ones that are maintained relatively well.)