• LotrOrc@lemmy.world
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      Getting mad at people for not being willing to condone a genocide is a really wild take to me.

      If you’re saying that genocide over there is okay so that genocide over here doesn’t happen as quickly then I don’t really know how to argue that.

      We got to this point because the Democrats themselves have been toothless for much of the last 25 years, and prop up the same system that the Republicans are fast tracking even more. The dems did not lose this election just because of the Gaza vote, they lost it because they wouldn’t listen to or support the regular people on the street. Dems had the chance to enshrine things into law - they controlled senate and house for the first two years of Biden. They did not codify any protections for trans rights or abortion rights, then used both as a fundraising event.

      Over 50% of white men and women voted for Trump this time around.

      So instead of getting mad at people who could not conscientiously condone a genocide, why not get mad and dismantle a system wherein a few billionaires get to buy the entire world and commit genocides on a massive scale? The US has been bombing half the world for almost its entire history. That doesn’t change because Republicans are in power or Democrats are in power.

      The current system is between ultra rich and everyone else. If everyone else keeps shitting on each other that won’t change.

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        You seem to have forgotten your previous post where you said, “It’s the same amount of genocide.”

        No it isn’t, now there is more genocide. Of brown people, of queer people, and apparently they’re coming for the indigenous as well.

        But arguing about the election is far more important than acknowledging that, isn’t it?

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            You’ve had two chances to acknowledge that there have been several domestic genocides added in the U.S. and you have not been willing to, so I think you should be asking that question of yourself.

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              How have I failed to acknowledge that? I said genocide there vs genocide here. Seems to be an acknowledgement

              However by your own logic, you have not said you don’t support genocide.

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                No, you never said that.

                This is the closest you got to saying that:

                If you’re saying that genocide over there is okay so that genocide over here doesn’t happen as quickly then I don’t really know how to argue that.

                (Which is not something I said, by the way. You just want me to claim I’m in favor of genocide for some reason I cannot fathom.)

                So you are now admitting that it is not the same amount of genocide like you originally claimed? It’s actually a lot more genocide?

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                  Right now, it’s the same amount of genocide.

                  I’m sure if trump gets his way, a lot more people will be hurt in the states as well.

                  You are asking thousands of people in the US to walk over their families and relatives dead bodies in order to vote for someone who allowed and helped their murder to happen.

                  Trump won by almost 3 million popular votes. If everyone who stayed home because of the genocide in Gaza voted for Harris, she still would not have won.

                  Media has focused on those voters, black and latino voters, brown voters, etc. Why have they not focused on the fact that a majority of white males and a majority of white men voted for Trump? When they know he is actively eroding their rights?

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                    I see. You don’t understand what genocide is.

                    Do you think genocide in Nazi Germany started with people getting killed?

                    Also, if you think I am interested in talking about an election that ended last year, you’re wrong. I am talking about genocide happening right now, genocide you are denying because apparently only one genocide matters to you.

                    I’d hate to hear how you felt about Sudan.