What the actual fuck.
We intentionally picked the worst thing because it’s the only way to burn civilization to the ground!
capitalism is not civilization.
but it sure will take civilization with it on the way out
not if we are organized outside of it
When’s that going to happen? Why has no one organized it? Are you going to?
I organize locally.
You organize locally to end capitalism?
How has that worked out for you so far?
Y’all wanna blame anyone but the Dems for their shitty campaign. Last time I checked adding all the green party votes to the Democrats wouldn’t have changed the outcome.
Fuck Jill Stein and every additional piece of shit who promotes her.
Watch this hour long interview Mehdi Hasan did with her. She’s fucking horrible and I’m glad the finest interviewer of our time got an hour to push her on her bullshit.
“Were going to not elect genocide by electing ultra-genocide!”
🤔
Sounds like the voting system needs an overhaul if those are your two options don’t ya think?
Absolutely, but plunging the US deeper into fascism is not going to help with that. When you’re in a hole, stop digging.
☐ Genocide and things stay pretty much the same
☐ Extra genocide and things get worse
☐ Waste vote (get extra genocide anyway)
“Democracy”
But now you can stay at Trump hotel, Gaza! Think of the amenities!
I can see the golf course now, wasting more water than Nestle just to keep the greens in shape.
Extra genocide? It’s the same amount of genocide…
Do tell that to all the brown and queer people in America. I’m sure they’ll all be reassured that there won’t be any more genocide.
You might want to reassure the Navajo while you’re at it. If you can get to them before they’re put into what is definitely not in any way a concentration camp in Guantanamo Bay.
Getting mad at people for not being willing to condone a genocide is a really wild take to me.
If you’re saying that genocide over there is okay so that genocide over here doesn’t happen as quickly then I don’t really know how to argue that.
We got to this point because the Democrats themselves have been toothless for much of the last 25 years, and prop up the same system that the Republicans are fast tracking even more. The dems did not lose this election just because of the Gaza vote, they lost it because they wouldn’t listen to or support the regular people on the street. Dems had the chance to enshrine things into law - they controlled senate and house for the first two years of Biden. They did not codify any protections for trans rights or abortion rights, then used both as a fundraising event.
Over 50% of white men and women voted for Trump this time around.
So instead of getting mad at people who could not conscientiously condone a genocide, why not get mad and dismantle a system wherein a few billionaires get to buy the entire world and commit genocides on a massive scale? The US has been bombing half the world for almost its entire history. That doesn’t change because Republicans are in power or Democrats are in power.
The current system is between ultra rich and everyone else. If everyone else keeps shitting on each other that won’t change.
You seem to have forgotten your previous post where you said, “It’s the same amount of genocide.”
No it isn’t, now there is more genocide. Of brown people, of queer people, and apparently they’re coming for the indigenous as well.
But arguing about the election is far more important than acknowledging that, isn’t it?
So you are ok with genocide then?
You’ve had two chances to acknowledge that there have been several domestic genocides added in the U.S. and you have not been willing to, so I think you should be asking that question of yourself.
How have I failed to acknowledge that? I said genocide there vs genocide here. Seems to be an acknowledgement
However by your own logic, you have not said you don’t support genocide.
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The Harris campaign didn’t want my vote so I didn’t give it to them. The Harris campaign was fine with losing as long as the genocide could continue.
The genocide was more important to them than beating trump. Think about that before you tell me I should’ve voted blue.
Socialist tend to be
i mean i disagree but have an upvote for at least being honest about your experience and positions.
i was getting sick of all the accelerationist people screaming “lib” at me for daring to be a tad upset that trump is the president and the multipartisan means by which we got here.
“I refuse to believe that leopards are eating my face.”
Genocide Joe stans seething over at .world
Give me a fucking break. You people are just the goddamned worst.
Should have considred that before OP went on his genocide apologia tirade.
Those literally don’t exist, what are you talking about?
Check the other replies.
I missed you guys! Now after the ethnic cleansing are you going to stay at the Trump Hotel in Gaza or the Trump Resort? It will have golf!
I don’t remember hearing any Dems talking about turning Gaza into a beach resort after they purge the locals.
Can’t hear them over the sound of the bombs they send
Oh, did Trump stop sending bombs? I was under the impression he was escalating things.
There’s an ongoing ceasefire, trump is all words, but you’d know better if you actually cared about Palestinians more than performatively. The daily deaths are much lower so far than under democrat administration. This is surely not thanks to trump’s good desires for Palestinians, he’s as much of a genocidal ghoul as any American politician, but the numbers are the numbers
If you had a working memory, you’d recall that trump has been calling Bibi and torpedoing ceasefire and foreign aid talks.
Also, there are a lot fewer Palestinians in Gaza left to shoot, so it would make sense that the numbers went down.
Oh, and the current ceasefire was negotiated by the Biden administration.
But you’d remember all that if you cared “more than performatively.”
the current ceasefire was negotiated by the Biden administration
Source? I feel like you just make this up. It was enacted literally the day before the inauguration wasn’t it? Why enact a ceasefire the day before the inauguration of your political opponent after 2+ years funding the genocide and talking about Pissrael’s right to defend itself and arresting students at campuses for protesting a genocide?
Also, there are a lot fewer Palestinians in Gaza left to shoot, so it would make sense that the numbers went down.
God you guys are fucking vile, trivialising stuff like that and pulling out bullshit arguments. The ceasefire is ongoing, that’s the reason why orders of magnitude people are being murdered, not a lack of Palestinians to be genocided. Nazis ramped up their industrial elimination of “Untermenschen” when they saw they were losing, despite “fewer left to shoot”.
Source? I feel like you just make this up. It was enacted literally the day before the inauguration wasn’t it?
Pop quiz… Who was the president the day before Trump was inaugurated in 2025?
Why enact a ceasefire the day before the inauguration of your political opponent…
Maybe because the preservation of human rights and life should be pursued regardless of who the President will be tomorrow?
Maybe because the preservation of human rights and life should be pursued regardless of who the President will be tomorrow?
So how is that compatible with the 2+ years of funding and supporting genocide?
They didn’t say it out loud, but they allowed the Israeli government to bomb the shit out of Gaza.
Trump said it out loud.
Act matter much more than word
If you honestly believed he wouldn’t act when he was back in power you need to have your head examined.
As much as it might displease you the fact is since Trump has won Israël Palestine have truced and civilian are not longer dying on a daily basiq
What a meaningless thing to say in this context, as both parties act the same way: supporting Israel.
So the only difference we have to go by is words. And Trump’s are the most ghoulish shit any elected politician has said so far.
What a meaningless thing to vote if whatever you vote both parties act the same. I’m glad we have more than 2 political parties in France
Same here in Germany, but these two parties are not at all the same, even if they don’t differ much in that one (and a bunch of other) issues.
Get fucked and civility be damned. Permaban me
You mean he said it while Biden was trying to persuade us that he was the one most aligned with Israel?
Wait, so how is letting Trump get elected a win for those who oppose genocide?
He has yet to stop the genocide for that to hold a colander’ worth of water.
The Green party is fucking worthless.
Russian stooge says what?
Trump literally wants to remove 2 million Palestinians, the literal definition of genocide. So how’s that going Jill Stein and protest non voters?
