Some communities there are literally calling for the annihilation of Ukraine
https://programming.dev/comment/1999097
edit: Since people are either willfully or otherwose are missing my point, this is a pro-russia, pro-fascist hate group, therefore we shouldn’t give them the platform to spread their shit. this is not about me seeing their community or then causing issues accross other communities, it’s about de-platforming fascists.
People should still have the right to see that content. If you don’t like it then block it but defederating deprives other who want to see it.
why should fascists be given a platform to spread their ideas?
I’m onboard with not defederating but holy shit these people are shitting themselves all over the place on [email protected]. They’re way worse than the typical lemmygrad.ml fare.
User in OP’s screenshot is from Lemmygrad
I’m talking about my direct experiences with these people.
So we’re gonna keep defederating instances every time a user of an instance acts crazy? Until every instance deferates from each other? This is getting absurd… and feels more and more like… high school.
It’s not a single user. The instance is a safe haven for tankies. This thread is 90% them supporting the CCP. Quite a bit of it is pretty trolly, too. I’m sure you’ll find a large number of their users support Russia over Ukraine.
The whole instance is known for brigading enmasse to shut down real discussion. They got defederated from lemmy.ca for doing this.
Just to be fair, that user isn’t even a hexbear member.
well if you read the comments, they are all saying it, this user is the only one spelling it out literally.
They have hundreds, if not thousands, of members all along a spectrum of leftist belief. Wild that they all were saying that, yet the comment only got 3 upvotes.
With every post I stumble upon about defederating with hexbear, I just feel more and more radicalized.
then you are a prime example of why de federation should happen, these are not leftists, these are misguided tankies at best, fascist shills in disguise in reality, down to the fact of them discovering this “new truth” (excellent video here btw https://youtu.be/P55t6eryY3g)
these are leftists the same way Nazis were socialist, North Korea is democratic and China/Russia were communist.
Russia is ruled by fascists, there is a reason both Orbán and the GOP are big fans of Putin.
how can you call them leftists while they shill russian propaganda? they all but come out and straight up say that Ukraine should be left alone to lose the war and be conquered?
Russia is ruled by fascists. how can you call them leftists while they shill russian propaganda?
Russia is very much quickly tumbling towards USSR communism. There is massive support for return to communism from the officials and the population. People are erecting new statues for Stalin and getting popular support. Criticizing historical communist leaders is likely to get you legally persecuted.
Why are people thinking that communist loving Russia is leftist… Gee I don’t know.
Incoming “USSR wasn’t communism, and nothing has ever been communism”.
USSR wasn’t communism it was State Capitalism…
I said it on the exploding-heads thread and I’ll say it here too: my “all” feed would be a much nicer place without hexbear showing up in it.
Exploding-heads is just the right wing version of hexbear, literally a different flavor of the same cancer.
It’s full of very good programmers who could contribute even if you don’t agree with their politics?
are you doing a “There are good people on both sides” thing?
Your screenshot is of a lemmygrad users comment with only three upvotes (hexbear doesn’t have downvotes) in the hexbear “chapotraphouse” comm.
And you’re saying that it shows programming.dev should defederate with the whole instance?
They’ve been stirring shit across lemmydom.
But, they haven’t hit everywhere, nor have they hit everywhere equally.
This means that instances where the defederation policy is reactive will not, and should not defederate until and unless users from there cause problems.
Have you checked the federation/defederation policy for your instance? If not, you should. If it is a reactive policy, then it comes down to you deciding to stay and use the block feature to curate your feed, stay and attempt to change that policy (good luck), find other instances to use, or use apps with instance filtering features.
It is my personal policy to not have a single account. I decentralize as a user. I recommend this to anyone and everyone in the fediverse. This makes it much easier to shift around as needed to avoid problematic things like this. If I don’t like the federation policy of a given instance leading to a bad actor instance causing trouble, I just don’t use that instance for a while, and eventually the disruptive place will get defederated for cause. Easy peasy.
I strongly suggest using an app with instance blocking. Connect, sync, and summit all have it (though I’m not certain how bulletproof each is). This means that no matter where you go, the users from the problem instances are filtered out. This only becomes a problem if you moderate C/s with decent traffic. If that’s the case, it is usually wise to set up a different app without filters to do mod work from (currently there’s only sync and summit that have mod tools that I’m aware of).
I’m less up to date on browser or PWA filtration options.
But, be aware, defederation is meant to be the last choice in most instances. Defederating without a good reason defeats the purpose of federation. Many admins believe in that principle, so this kind of post may not amount to anything at all.
I agree that hexbear is a problem. Because I’m decentralized as a user, I have seen the users from there stirring shit everywhere they target. And that is why they need attention as regards defederation, not having stupid opinions. We, as a general group of fediverse denizens, really need to be careful with calls for defederation solely on the basis of stupidity.
