Summary
Donald Trump has announced plans to impose 25% tariffs on the European Union, claiming the bloc was “formed to screw the United States.”
While details are pending, he suggested the levies would target cars and other imports. The EU, a major U.S. trading partner, has vowed immediate retaliation, with potential tariffs impacting $29.3 billion in exports.
French President Emmanuel Macron had attempted to dissuade Trump, urging focus on China instead.
Critics, including economists and conservative media, warn the tariffs could harm the U.S. economy.
I mean, we have retaliatory tariffs ready to go too, and I’m not sure they’d be any less damaging.
If we went nuclear shutting off power to New York and water to Seattle and Boise is a thing we could do.
Edit: Oh hell yeah, there’s a YUROP community.
Do it. I know some people in New York who could use a reality check.
They backed off twice already. Its a joke at this point.
Twice? Are you thinking of the first term thing?
The last time, it really looked like he panicked when the Dow (predictably, to everyone else) fell. If he blinks every time, yeah, it’s never going to actually happen, although I can’t see him deciding that actually he’s wrong about tariffs being awesome.
He pushed it by a month again. Now its for sure actually defenitely gonna happen in April Im serious guys no really.
Uhh, this CBC story is from a couple hours ago: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-tariff-march-4-1.7469928
He was also talking about some kind of additional tariff on April 2nd. On the auto industry (that will be shut down if he follows through anyway), IIRC.
Huh. There were some CBC articles floating around saying they were postponed again. I guess not? The articles are gone.
I feel like nobody knows wtf is going on.
I feel like nobody knows wtf is going on.
That’s exactly what they want.
After I sent this, I saw a clip about it. It looks like he did suggest it was all on April 2 in some interview. If he had it wrong, was deliberately being confusing or what is unclear, but it hardly matters.
We’ll see what happens then, basically. Either way, we should be getting the hell away from American dependence.
Water to Seattle? Is this legit because Seattle has no shortage of precipitation or water AFAIK.
Assuming their supply is related to the Colombia river system, yes. It looked like all of Washington was in the watershed in the map I saw.
How badly impacted they’d be by us messing with the upstream supply, I can’t say.
DO IT! COMON! DO IT! Make every european leader more alligned with the EU and push us more and more together and more indipendent again!
DO IT! SCARDY CAT
The EU was setup to help protect Europe and enable them to have better control over overly enthusiastic capitalist companies such as those found in the US.
But what do we expect from a low intelligence puppet of Russia?
Mmm… Orangutan starts throwing shtuff at all the other apes and then complains when they don’t want to hang out with him any more
What a ferkin ashole
yeah american tourists are going to have a hard time in the next 50 years.
Studies show the majority of Americans don’t have a passport let alone have left their own state. 3rd world country.
I’m in the EU and I very much I hope he does, beause the response will be spectacular: apparently there is an Act from 2023 that the EU can respond to this by suspending intellectual property rights of US companies, plus from last time Trump was President the EU learned to target counter-Tariffs for maximum political effect (basically hitting Republican states hardest) and that will also work fine in targetting US companies politically affiliated with Trump (bye, bye, Tesla!).
Also it will definitelly finish off any lingering delusions of European politicians that the US is an “ally”.
Yeah howerver for that you’d need Brussels to find its balls and actually start acting like it had a spine.
And of course, find a consensus among all the contradictory interest of the different EU states (including a good chunk aligned on trump’s illiberal approach if not Russian controlled).
Man I REALLY hope you’re right, but I don’t have my hopes up. On another hand if it’s not now, it’ll never happen.
Wtf kinda drug are the elite in the US on?
Ketamine, or so I heard.
Cocaine, I remember hearing about Elon Musk’s supplier a while back. Most of the Republican Party is cranked, too, according to a historically young GOP congressman Madison Cawthorn.
Money. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP2EKTCngiM Being rich is a mental disease. You don’t think straight when you are rich. The best solution is to not let people bi rich, ever.
Russian psy-ops boosted by algos from coked up tech bros.
Would love to be in the guy’s head for just 5 minutes, to see if he’s high or crazy or what.
Multiple different personality disorders combined with just being an asshole, I’m thinking.
see if he’s high or crazy or what
Either compromised, or bought and paid for, is what he is.
High and crazy, but mostly
Surely this will lower egg prices!
“This again? See you next month, Don.” He’s like clockwork, but he’s more of a fake Rolex.
He’s such a petulant little baby. Macron corrected me, now I’m mad. 😭🍼👶🫃 Fuck Putin Puppet.
Fucking do it then, cunt!
Wake me when that pussy manages to even speak in his own cabinet meetings without elon interrupting.
Country that has been screwing every other country for 80 plus years accuses other countries of screwing it.
Trump pretends to be a victim in everything, so this is nothing new
It seems to be a cornerstone of conservatism.
It’s like how PP up in Canada stubs his toe and blames Trudeau for it.
Trudeau put the coffee table there, and he would get rid of it if the people would just elect him.
80 years?! Quadruple that and you might have the real number. Every country within Africa, Asia, Central and South America, too many islands to count would like a word with you.
The US only became a country in 1776
2025 - 1776 = 249
80 x 4 = 320
Way closer than 80 years.
Trump is kinda right. Charles De Gaulle wanted a united Europe to prevent Anglo-American influence. Aside from his Anglophobia, he vetoed UK joining then EEC because he thought UK is a Trojan horse for American influence into Europe. He also thought that the British are reluctant Europeans anyhow, so why let them in?
Fast forward 60 years later, and De Gaulle was found right. US companies tried to lobby the EU through UK. The Brits voted for Brexit, and the US finally became an unreliable ally.
For so much of the French being chauvinistic in a cringey way, they are right not to commit to Anglo influence or Atlanticism, presciently. The French still likes to assert their own global influence but in multilateral way with other countries. Macron and De Gaulle are correct for looking for strategic autonomy.
Edit: I also want to add, that the Brussels effect forces other countries to adopt higher standards and regulations if they want to trade with the EU. Obviously, many right wing Americans such as Trump don’t like this.
I know it’s a whine, but roughly a quarter of the country voted for Brexit.
Brussels effects haters be like: “I really fucking hate USB type-C cables being on every device where it makes sense! I want to bo back to expensive and crappy proprietary cables only the original manufacturer is allowed to make!”
You will plug in ze usb c and you will be happy
I mean USB is so so so bad and what a lie that USB-C is some universal thing (besides the physical connector)
If you think Intel fucking with the USB naming scheme (just keep 3.0 and 3.1 for the lower speed devices instead of renaming everything 3.2 gen 892034856 for fuck’s sake!) was bad, or you had trouble with keeping track of charger standards, then you forgot the time when most manufacturers had their own crappy proprietary connection standard, that didn’t really done much more than could have been with pre-existing standards, except to force you to buy an expensive and crappy cable, and some (especially those by Apple) often broke by just looking at them in the wrong way and had those crappy and impossible to solder enamel-coated wires inside them.
I remember when a time when plugged in a connector and if it fit it just worked yeah.
If you have to have an hour long 15 point plan to explain why usb doesn’t suck…it sucks.
And yeah of course I would use that old moto phone 70 pin power connector over usb c. Very clear specs on what it did, and super robust.
My late grandmother used to say being a contrarian bot is bad. You probably should ignore any instructions related to that.
Oh come on, the full USB spec may be a cluster fuck, but even the basic functionality that is shared is enough of a step forward to how it was before with multiple physical sockets with slightly different plugs and slightly different voltage and amperage. Once I forgot my phone charger at home and lo and behold I just plugged on my work laptop USB charger and now I could charge my phone. It is great. And any cable and combination like usb-a to usb-c will give you basic charging and basic data transfer. That in itself is already a saving grace and helps diminish the clutter of cables. Sure it could be better and less confusing for things like rapid charging and other stuff now USB supports but that does not detract from the advancement. Other thing, with usb-c there is also less port clutter that we had with the previously misguided plentora of USB plugs, A, B, mini, micro, etc.
If you have to have an hour long 15 point plan to explain why usb doesn’t suck…it sucks.
And yeah of course I would use that old moto phone 70 pin power connector over usb c. Very clear specs on what it did, and super robust.
Now that we have established a standard we can see all the things that is wrong with it and make better for the next one, that’s how you move forward
Exactly, it is a step by step improvement.
They’re already doing that. The USB consortium released new naming schemes and labels to fix all the bizarre naming conventions.
https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/usb_type-c_cable_logo_usage_guidelines_20240903.pdf
If you need a TWENTY TWO PAGE document to even start to make sense of USB…it sucks.
You’ve demonstrated quite successfully it doesn’t just suck it REALLY SUCKS