Sorry to break it to you, but America was never the good guy, neither was China nor Russia btw
Not sure if you’re serious but I think that’s what the comic is joking about.
The prisoners are missing their MAGA tattoos.
I don’t really get this as a comic, is there supposed to be a joke in there? It’s a guy surrounded by gitmo prisoners, reading trump trump news, and wishing things weren’t so bad?
Is the joke that he’s sitting down and not doing anything? Is the guy supposed to represent someone specifically? What is the message supposed to be?
America was never the good guy and torture at Guantanamo existed under multiple democrat presidents
America was never the good guy and torture at Guantanamo existed under multiple democrat presidents
That’s just wrong but I understand how it might seem like that to anyone who wasn’t born yet when it wasn’t true.
When in your view was America the good guy?
For Optional, anytime a Democrat is office.
Empire, with a smile!™
Which part of that was wrong? Oh I forgot. Union soldiers along with lincoln freed the slaves and we fought the Nazis in ww2 despite many of our capitalists supporting them. Two glimmers of good in our history.
And if you don’t think torture in Guantanamo didn’t exist under Obama I don’t know what to tell you.
Yeah, the never part.
You think emancipation and WWII were “glimmers”? Okay.
In 250 years of history, not counting the colonial times that started beforehand which would date back to 1619 and make conservatives cry…. Yeah. Those are glimmers of good in centuries of bad.
What’s your unit of measurement there? I’m guessing whatever it is is “per year”?
What’s your point? America has a had a few good years out of 250, or 400 if we’re counting the colonial times. The fact that you’re arguing with me about Americas history of being mostly shitty is serious fucking cope.
The joke is that, according to the cartoonist, America has never been the “good guy.” Donald Trump did not invent America “bad guy” status. The Gitmo prisoners remind the seated newspaper reader about “American bad guy stuff” that happened (or at least started) before Trump was a political force.
Yes, there’s nothing that’s going to do more to stop Trump than attacking the Liberals.
By your logic, none of the partisans who were fighting the Nazis and Imperial Japan should have taken any aid from the racist USA and England.
No compromise, ever.
Yes, there’s nothing that’s going to do more to stop Trump than attacking the Liberals.
Centrist liberalism is inherently incapable of stopping fascism, so literally yes.
By your logic, none of the partisans who were fighting the Nazis and Imperial Japan should have taken any aid from the racist USA and England.
No one said anything about compromise or ideological purity; that’s literally not the problem here.
Liberalism literally brought us fascism but the libs will never ever understand how destroying material conditions for regular people during the 2008 bailout of the banks brought us here.
Throughout the pre and post-election Democrat collaborationism debacle I’ve come to the conclusion that Americans don’t deserve to be saved from themselves partially because of this nonsense (easy decision to make when I don’t live there, I know). Like we all know the definition of insanity right? Why are y’all repeating the same things that got you in this mess in the first place?
Centrist liberalism is inherently incapable of stopping fascism, so literally yes.
FDR has entered the chat.
Please explain to me, in detail, how the USA providing weapons to the USSR and partisans didn’t do anything at all to stop the Nazis.
Remember to cite all your sources.
Setting aside the problem of how you’re ignoring the obvious implied “at home” in the sentence, FDR is a centrist liberal? Fucking FDR? Like, this FDR?
FDR has entered the chat.
Yes, FDR has entered the chat as an example of what a leader needs to do to fight fascism.
Also FDR
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans
Illegally threw US citizens into internment camps.
But if you can like FDR who imprisoned people for having the wrong family, maybe you can stop screaming at Liberals today.
Okay you are not engaging with my point; leave the strawmanning to the conservatives.
But if you can like FDR who imprisoned people for having the wrong family, maybe you can stop screaming at Liberals today.
This is just a non-sequitur. Like what point are you even trying to make?
The point where you seem to be able to ignore that FDR, for all his good qualities, did some pretty bad things too.
If you can ignore FDR’s imprisoning Japanese - Americans, you can ignore the Dems faults, too.
Also, a ‘strawman argument’ is when I exaggerate your position. I didn’t exaggerate what you said, I pointed out the fact that you seem to like some of FDR’s policies while ignoring others.
you can ignore the Dems faults, too.
So FDR for all his faults didn’t fund a genocide, but that aside that’s straight up not what I’m talking about. I’m not saying the Dems’ faults are too big to ignore; I’m saying that, being liberal centrists, they can’t stop fascism as we’ve seen these past 9 years. This isn’t a moral judgement; it’s a statement of fact that you’re not engaging with.
