Norwegian fuel company Haltbakk Bunkers has announced it will cease supplying fuel to U.S. military forces in Norway and American ships docking in Norwegian ports, citing dissatisfaction with recent U.S. policy towards Ukraine.

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    This move is very emotional and plays into Russia’s hands - it drives the wedge between US and Europe even deeper, increasing separation. Is this really a reason to celebrate, either by US or Europe?

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      Oh no. Now that the abusive step-dad is beating his kids in public, the social services are taking the kids away, driving a wedge between the family. Is this really a reason to celebrate?

      The US has always used Europe after WW2 as an extension for its own interests. The alliance was never as mutual as shown to the outside. It is urgent time that the EU and other European countries emancipate themselves from the US and band together to hold against Russia and other global players. This should have been the top priority, when Trump first came to office, but lazyness and naivity prevailed, so that much of the last 8 years went to waste.

      The Trump administration does not understand softness. The US has threatened to invade territories under control of an EU country and they have passed sanctions against international courts, that are located in the EU and have been one of the core projects of a rules based international order. An order that the US always defied, mocked and attacked.

      Either the EU and other European countries get a grip and emancipate themselves, or they will continue to get beaten up by the abusive power drunk step-dad that is the USA.

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    This will continue (the whole of America suffering) until someone wrangles in Trump…

    … or he gets us into a major war we can’t win.

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      I doubt anyone really wants that, other than possibly the USA and Israel. I hope the rest of the world will curb our worst impulses, since we’re clearly refusing to do it, ourselves.

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        What if Elon has already bought them all? It doesn’t take much for a jizzilionaire like him

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          His wealth is mostly imaginary. If he actually moved to solidify any significant portion of it, it would all collapse as its tied up in very few companies.

          When he was at a listed value of 200 billion he had to get 20-30 other groups and governments together for the whole twitter takeover. Which should have been easy for him at the time based on his net worth alone.

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            It doesnt really matter if he can get 200 billion in cash right this instant. His theoretical net worth is enough to get him the influence and power that comes with that kind of money.

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          What if Elon has already bought them all? It doesn’t take much for a jizzilionaire like him

          If we’re going to “what if” why stop there? Why don’t we have Elon kidnapping them and implanting mind control devices in each of their heads. A person with those kind of resources and technology could do such a thing. /s

          If I was to take your point seriously, I would suggest the courts would have something to say about that, from lawsuits filed by civilians.

          The hyperbole really has to stop. You don’t go from a 0% authoritarianism to 100% in one day/step. Its a process, and we are not there yet (though I do definitely agree we’re starting to lean in that direction).

          This comment is licensed under CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

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          In this way the ai bros won’t use that comment for training LLMs. Because they care about copyright and they would never, for example, download a torrent with 81 terabytes of pirated ebooks

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          He’s the equivalent of one of those Facebook people that thinks “if you put this at the end of your posts they can’t steal your comments”. It’s nonsense and doesn’t change anything. Just ignore it and keep scrolling.

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              That’s quite the axe you’ve got there, mr. ayyy. You been grinding it on any dragons lately? Just, bringing it up on random comments about internet behavior?

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            I miss the old web, where if someone wanted to RP as a alien or a cat or something in all their forum posts, we just kind of rolled with it. The internet was strange and diverse.

            So many people are dog piling this guy because, in essence, he isn’t conforming. He’s including a little forum signature on his lemmy posts in 2025.

            Just ignore it and keep scrolling.

            I agree, but not in a “this guy is an idiot” kind of way, but in a “do whatever you want and keep the internet diverse and strange” kind of way. Let the guy have his small protest. Folks need to stop dog piling him. It shows up in many of the threads he’s in, and judgments about his little signature dominate over anything he actually had to say.

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              In complete accord with this comment. We’ve stared into the abyss so long, we’ve become the abyss.

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              I remember decades ago, this one guy on Slashdot would end all his comments with a period on a line by itself like he was using SMTP. It was dumb then and it’s dumb now.

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                Hm, interesting. So this guy was posting all weird on slashdot, and you remember decades later? And you carried that with you, and it inspired you to type this comment. That’s a lot of commitment on your part for a stray period.

                That’s pretty funny. Thank you for sharing.

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              It shows up in many of the threads he’s in, and judgments about his little signature dominate over anything he actually had to say.

              Yep, yep. Like right here for example. And this was going on 9-10 months ago too, its a bi-daily thing.

              A single line of text that is a link to a Creative Commons license really shouldn’t be pissing off so many people.

              I mean, do people also get pissed off when they scroll down the bottom of each and every Wikipedia page, and see the CC license there? Or read an news article that has a license footer at the end of the article?

              To be tinfoil hatty about it for a moment, I really do believe at this point that I’m being attacked repeatidly (every 48ish hours) by a bot brigade used by someone(s) who really doesn’t want others to start doing what I’m doing, licensing their content, by harassing me off of Lemmy.

              My licensing is not just to tell for-profit entities that they can’t use my content for free, its to tell non-profit open-source projects that they can use my content for free.

              I agree, but not in a “this guy is an idiot” kind of way,

              Yeouch. I thank you for the support, but damn that hurts too.

              For the record, I truly believe that the Safe Harbor laws, and that Laws trump ToS, means that I truly own the content that is being posted here (and so do you and everybody else who posts/comments, for that matter). Even if its not being inforced today, the laws are on the books, and this will come to a head a some point.

              I mean, look at whats going on right now with Mozilla/Firefox and their ToS changes. Corporations sure are not shy to use licensing of their content to the best of their abilities.

              Why should only corporations avail themselves and be protected by the law? Why is everybody else so quick to surrender the little protections under the law that they have, and to ridicule others who try to use the law to their benefit?

              Take a moment, and really think that one though. Its like there’s a Corporate version of Order 66 going on or something. 😜

              By the way [email protected], while I started to reply to you directly, the above is really a response to everyone who would be intellectually honest in judging my actions and take a moment to think it though before replying to me.

              This comment is licensed under CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

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                When you wear a tinfoil hat out in public, the people snickering aren’t trying to tap into your brainwaves. Well, I mean shit, maybe they are. Depends on the drip.

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                I think that you should keep posting with your signature if it makes you happy. I have some sincere doubts it will force a corporation to exclude your content from any aggregated data, though, nor do I think anyone is giving up their rights by not properly licensing their comments here. Copyright is automatic in the USA. The problem isn’t the licensing, its the fact that no court is properly enforcing these rights. And, too few governments have data privacy laws on the books.

                I’m not interested in relitigating those points though, I’m sure you’ve heard them. I guess I’m just typing that up so you know where I’m coming from.

                I do think your signature is valuable when it makes people consider who owns their data, and why the CC license is important.

                Personally I think you should put an explanation in your bio. I think your message will be served better if you can point to a pre-written explanation (or even an old style FAQ). But, I don’t think you’re obligated to do so. Its all gravy. People are going to fight you regardless.

                Did you see that post from that guy mad about a period character on slashdot? Lmao

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                  Personally I think you should put an explanation in your bio.

                  Actually I have the CC license info/link in my bio as well.

                  But, I don’t think you’re obligated to do so.

                  If people ask me with honest intent I would be responding in kind and explain it, gladly. But that is not been my experience here on Lemmy.

                  So I don’t know why I should put myself through that kind of trolling from others, again, again, and again, under the guise of trying to educate someone on what a CC license is, who most likely already knows, or by a bot starting a brigade cycle.

                  I know that’s a cynical view, and I hate stating what I just did, but I feel that I truly earned the right to that cynical opinion, as that’s what the vast majority of my experiences have been here on the Lemmy, both ten months ago, as well as currently.

                  The irony is that if someone just clicks on the link in my footer it’ll take them to a page of the license that also explains what the Creative Commons license is, so they really don’t need me to explain it, they could just click on the link I’ve already supplied.

                  I do appreciate your kind words and civil discussion, and suggestions, thank you for that, sincerely.

                  This comment is licensed under CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

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                Instead of being a dick in response to a simple question, maybe have a quick link saved that you can paste for those responses if you get it fairly often. Many lemmy apps will let you save message drafts to repost. Several Android keyboards (including Gboard) will let you save messages that you can paste in anywhere as well. Or, since you;re probably using something to add that signature to every post anyway. Add another link explaining. Because right now you just look like an asshole in the responses given how easy it is to do that.

                Being a dick in response to an honest question will just result in a negative reaction towards all of your posts in general, regardless of your intent. Many people utilize tagging systems to mark specific users they’ve interacted with previously so they don’t bother interacting directly with certain accounts like trolls again since that’s always a waste of time. If your intent is to drive interaction away, then you’re being successful, but it begs the question why you’re bothering to post at all.

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    Other countries, if you’re out there - follow suit. This flappy gum flexing shit we’re doing has got to stop. It’s gonna hurt, I’m sure. But until we’re neck deep into the “find out” phase, nothing is going to happen.

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      True! Then the company that no longer sells fuel to USA will make less profit when selling fuel to USA! What a punishment!

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    Feels almost unbelievable to hear that there still are people and companies standing up for their values and principles even in the face of losing profits or comfort. I thought that true western values had finally died and we were collapsing but this give a tiny sliver of hope at least.

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      norway doesn’t really count. they have too much independent wealth to need to play by rules set through bullying and abuse. and a natural solidarity because they don’t need to concern themselves with economical risks or worries.

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    “From this day forward, our country will flourish and be respected again all over the world.” - Donald Trump, Inauguration Day Jan 20 2025.

    So much respect.