A Facebook group for Cybertruck owners is full of videos and photos of passersby and other drivers flicking them off, leaving notes that say “WHAT’S ELON’S CUM TASTE LIKE?,” and “NAZI CAR,” and people kicking their cars, throwing slices of cheese at it, etc.

  • SPRUNT@lemmy.world
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    Just wanted to say that the hate on American cheese is unjustified. American cheese is just cheddar that has been heated to 170f (iirc) for long enough to kill bacteria and make it shelf-stable. They add an emulsifier (again, iirc) to help it bind better and have a more pleasant texture.

    All other criticisms of America are valid, but the cheese doesn’t deserve the hate it gets.

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      You forgot to mention that it’s watered down. That’s what the emulsifier is for, to make the oils in the cheese mix well with the added water. The concept is fine - for some applications - if it were only that, but this is hyper-processed American food we’re talking about here. Gotta pad out that ingredient list:

      CHEDDAR CHEESE (CULTURED MILK, SALT, ENZYMES), SKIM MILK, MILKFAT, MILK PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, WHEY, CALCIUM PHOSPHATE, SODIUM PHOSPHATE, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, SALT, LACTIC ACID, MILK, SORBIC ACID AS A PRESERVATIVE, OLEORESIN PAPRIKA (COLOR), ENZYMES, CHEESE CULTURE, ANNATTO (COLOR).

      The above is the standard Kraft singles ingredient list, and at a glance is the shortest one I saw on their website.

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        2 months ago

        “Pleasant” in the context of what it would be otherwise. My understanding is that, without the emulsifier, it would be crumbly and kinda chalky, and not hold a form very well.

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      I agree, the american cheese is an Interesting and useful invention. At the end of the day it’s just emulsified cheese. Similiar to emusified sausages and meat products, which are popular all around the world.

      I much rather hate american insistace on substituting technique and culinary education with cream, corn syrup, sugar and butter.

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      IMHO, it has three purposes:

      1. a grilled cheese on cheap white bread with enough butter to guarantee an acid reflux episode
      2. melted on Chef Boyardee ravioli
      3. on a slice of apple pie

      If your Kraft singles are too precious, I think the Dollar Tree brands stray even further from gods light.

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        Wait wtf you put American cheese on your apple pie?!?

        Are you from the US? I’ve never heard of that, and honestly I’m horrified and intrigued

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          I think it might be an “older people in the south” thing. (Like all boomers and older I’ve talked to about it know about it, usually not younger) I worked at a diner for a bit, and it would be Silent Generation types that would order it.

          It’s pretty good, but real cheddar would be better. It’s that similar salty/sweet combo that makes French fries and a McFlurry better than sex.

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      I wonder if one of the problems is your comparison of American cheese to what I’m guessing might be American cheddar. I say this because most (and I know there are some niche outliers) American cheddars are pretty awful. It tastes processed, rubbery and bland.

      When I, a Brit, lived in the USA for 4 yrs I quickly learned the only good cheddar was the NZ or UK stuff. I say this as someone who has gone through at least 1-3 blocks of various British cheddars a week for almost 40 yrs.

      I wonder if you have had imported (not just branded as “English cheddar” before for example? It might blow your mind… but also if American cheddar is all you have know it might not taste all that good - we all have our tastes shaped by our upbringing.

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      If by ‘more pleasant texture’ you mean ‘no texture whatsoever’ then yes, I suppose so.

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      Literally this is why it gets hate. It’s not remotely Cheddar. Real Cheddar is deliberately none of these things. I love a crunchy cheese crystal and a crumbly organic texture. To each their own, but it’s not Cheddar, barely cheese. I’d have it in a burger, but only because so few places will melt real cheese properly. Brie is pretty good in a burger. Is Somerset Brie really Brie? Time for a Frenchman to tell me to gtfo…

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      Honestly if you ever tasted anything else than cheddar and mozzarella, you know that americans cheese is something else. I’m willing to bet you could leave some slices in a forest and no animal would touch it.

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        you know that americans cheese is something else

        It’s cheddar and Colby Jack with some emulsifiers to make them mix better, that’s about it

        Kraft singles have preservatives in them so they’re großer for sure, but that’s not the only kind of American cheese there is

        No I DONT know why my keyboard autocorrected that to use the German letter but it’s funny so I’m leaving it as is

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      All other criticisms of America

      Processed cheese is only called “American cheese” by Americans.

      The rest of the world doesn’t call it that, and it’s strange to see that some of you take it on as part of your national identity.

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        @JacksonLamb @SPRUNT ‘American cheese’ is a specific type of cheese. I think the closest thing we have in the UK, we’d call ‘plastic cheese’ but even Kraft cheese slices/Kraft singles aren’t ‘American cheese’ as they have extra milk in.