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    2 months ago

    Did the DNC’s strategy work? No? Then the Democrats were wrong.

    It’s their job to convince voters to vote for them. And if they won’t take responsibility for failing at their job, then they’re on course to do the exact same thing in 2028 and get the exact same results.

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      Did the DNC’s strategy work? No? Then the Democrats were wrong.

      The biggest flaw in the DNC strategy, it appears, is not appearing as a ‘maybe rich’ felony rapist traitor facing multiple election tampering and secrets cases, telling some bullshit story about magical prosperity for all.

      That’s their flaw.

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      2 months ago

      It’s their job to convince voters to vote for them.

      And it’s the voters DUTY to inform themselves responsibly and make the best choice for the welfare of their nation. American voters failed to do so.

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        We can’t do anything about that, wagging your finger at voters will not accomplish anything. But we CAN do something about the party itself, the candidate, and the campaign strategy.

        Fixating on things we can’t change is a way to deflect from having actual productive conversations about things that we can change. It’s a way for the DNC to avoid taking responsibility.

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          The Democrats are made of people. If you believe people can’t change, we’re fucked anyway. Thankfully, I believe you’re wrong.

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          We can’t do anything about that, wagging your finger at voters will not accomplish anything.

          If we can’t do anything about American voters being complacent and lazy and not doing their civic duty responsibly, then we have, and will continue to have, way bigger problems than a party not being good at promoting themselves. And, oh look, we are.

          We can’t just keep ignoring the source of our problem. People HAVE to get responsibly engaged in politics if we want out of this situation. Otherwise, even if Dems get better at messaging, we’ll just slingshot back to where we are now if they stop being good at it again.

          Apparently it’s going to take a lot of pain and suffering for Americans to become more responsible voters. If it’s even possible at this point.

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            It is a candidate’s job to convince voters to vote for them. That is what campaigning is. Sitting here and wagging your finger, on the other hand, is not campaigning.

            We cannot tie the entire US electorate down and force them to “be more responsible”. That is not a useful or productive way to look at the problem. If that is all you fixate on, you have no actionable solution out of it.

            But what we can do is run better candidates with a better campaign, that will inspire voters to want to vote for them. That is how it works, that has always been how it works, and if we ignore that, we will lose in 2028.

            The point I am making here is that we need to talk about things we can actually do something about, instead of shutting down the conversation by deflecting to things we cannot do anything about.

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            the way to compell voters is through education, livable wages, and a prosperous life. it is an inherent catch 22.

            you cannot blame a victim of propaganda that they were propagandised. especially if they are a dumb fuck

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      It’s their job to convince voters to vote for them

      Everytime this topic comes up it reminds me of incels whining no women wants them…

      They don’t want to change anything, they don’t want to compromise, they want a participation trophy for just existing. What’s insane is that’s been the strategy for the last three presidential elections.

      And if they won’t take responsibility for failing at their job, then they’re on course to do the exact same thing in 2028 and get the exact same results.

      The new DNC chair has been very vocal about what the problem is, how to fix, and is already running the same playbook that solidified his home state blue.

      The DNC is basically the chair, and we just got a much better chair than we’ve had in decades.

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          “We’re calling it the ‘Organize Everywhere’ tour,” Martin told ABC13. “It’s a simple premise that if we’re going to win throughout this country and get back into power, we have to organize everywhere. We’re visiting red states, purple states, and blue states on this tour. And Texas really is the future of the Democratic Party. This is such a critical battleground state as we move forward in the 2026 elections – of course, the 28 election cycle and beyond.”

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/abc13-has-1-on-1-with-new-democratic-national-committee-chair-ken-martin/ar-AA1zI1f4

          But you don’t have to go on hypotheticals, he has a long history in Minnesota, and supporting candidates voters want translated to wins.

          It’s not even that overtly progressive, he just knows it’s easiest to win if voters already like the candidate and policy. And voters like charismatic candidates with progressive policy stances.