That explains all the AI crap they’ve been chasing for a while now. They’ve been trying to juice up the value to make it look appealing to potential buyers because you can basically slap “AI” on anything and it instantly shoots up in value.
Discord is effectively dead if this goes through.
If they’re courting buyers, it’s already dead. It’s just not started to stink yet.
They also put ads on the screen and have been shilling their apps for a while now. There is not even a button to go to the webapp on their mobile site, you have to switch to desktop mode just to get in.
Welp, there goes the neighborhood. If they want to do an IPO they’ll probably enshittify the hell out of the platform and jettison all remotely raunchy communities. Because nothing says “good investment” than a service that just drove out a fair chunk of its user base.
I just hope further Enshittification will cause devs to ditch it and start using proper forums instead. It‘s always tragic when a software has no other way of giving feedback and answering questions than Discord where you can‘t find anything, let alone with an external search engine. The abandonment of internet forum culture and searchable discussions has been one of the biggest losses in the virtual space.
Start making your plans for a replacement because it will be going to shit soon.
Now is the time for Matrix to improve usability and whatnot, because I think that’s the most credible replacement.
I really wish Matrix had been more successful, but it has some pretty core problems that prevented it from gaining more traction.
It fell into the same trap as XMPP, though perhaps even worse, with a focus more on its protocol and specification than a single unified product vision. The reference server implementation is slow, and using a language not optimal for its purpose, with alternative server implementations left incomplete and unsupported. It took a long time for them to figure out voice and video and for it to work well, and the “user flow” still isn’t at Discord levels.
I’ve rooted for Matrix for a long time, but as a former XMPP evangelist, to me the writing on the wall says it isn’t suited for success either. I’d love to be wrong, but I don’t see a way through.
Although, I’m honestly surprised that there isn’t a Fediverse equivalent/Alternative to Discord.
IK that platforms like Matrix exist, but what I’m talking about is a federated platform that’s a clone of Discord.
The trouble with relying on each community to self-host is that it’s unlikely to ever make it to the masses that way. Self-hosting is a significant barrier.
Finally, I hope Discord’s inevitable enshittification will be the kick in the ass that will launch a platform that doesn’t gargle donkey balls - preferably someting fediverse capable.
I always liked TeamSpeak, is that still around?
gentlemen start your enshittification.
I can’t wait for Discord to enshittify so that lazy devs can’t say “join our Discord for updates and support!” anymore.
Hate that shit.
It’s quite shit already
Fiiiiiiiiiinally.
How can it not be awful for them too? Like users may even try to ✌️search Discord✌️ for their issue only to come up short and have fo ask a question asked a million times already. Gross.
here it fucking come, if you thought it was enshitified you haven’t seen anything yet!
What’s the best alternative software to gear up to transition to? I’m pretty pissed because they finally got decent integration for PS5. I was playing Space Marines with a couple friends, one of whom is playing on PC, so we’ve been able to crossplay with voice chat.
XMPP, but unironically
Could we add Zulip? I think it even has IRC integration if I’m not mistaken.
I want to adopt Matrix but getting started is the hardest part
Getting my friends to shift over is a pain in the ass for sure
That’s where a Ulysses pact can help: https://pluralistic.net/2024/11/02/ulysses-pact/
It was hard to get everyone off aim too but it happened.
Then again there is always IRC.
Well, it was a good run.
Discord, the social chat app popular with the video game community, has met with investment bankers in recent weeks to discuss preparations for an initial public offering as soon as this year, two people familiar with the talks said.
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The people, who requested anonymity because the conversations are confidential, cautioned that the talks were still exploratory and that I.P.O. plans remained subject to change.Discord knows everything about its users. Why don’t its users get to know about the future of their app
Privacy for Me but not for Thee.
I wonder if Flotilla on Nostr will be ready in time. The nostr community can unfortunately be a bit iffy right now, but I like the tech, and I’m always excited to see someone taking a good stab at Discord.
Soon as you hear the term instance, most people are out.
Call it a server, then. Tons of people already call them Discord servers. And it’d be a lot more true of Flotilla than Discord. Functionally, from a UX perspective, there’d be VERY little difference to an end user. You’d get an invite somehow, probably through a link, maybe combined with whitelisting your identity for more private communities, and you’d be in, using a client remarkably similar to Discord once it’s in a good spot. For most users, they can fully ignore the technical complexities.
Is there one very central, singular instance/server that everyone can join from, without causing performance issues (like if everyone on Lemmy was on the same instance)?
That’s required for normies. Look, 90% of people won’t ever move from reddit to lemmy because they’d have to CHOOSE an instance. It’s not that the choice even matters TOO much. It’s just the fact that there’s a choice. It’s a problem.
When Steve Jobs said Apple restricted your customizability and settings because users are dumb and don’t know what they want, I always thought he was an arrogant dickhead. And he was an arrogant dickhead, but he was also right. Average users don’t want choices, they want the OOTB experience to be as good as possible.
That’s a moot point because Discord doesn’t even have that. Community discovery happens almost entirely through users sharing invite links. There are third party websites that aggregate and categorize public communities with long lasting or permanent invite links, and that’s about the only other option. Functionally, a user can ignore where the community is hosted. All that matters is that they get the invite they want, just like today with Discord.
I think you see it as a federated system like the Fediverse, but that’s not really the case. Nostr relays are under no obligation to propagate content between each other, and for a Discord-like community, there’s no real need to. Clients are free to connect to as few or as many relays as they like. For something like this, the relay used by the community would be baked into the invite so users can connect without worrying about it. From their perspective, the only real difference is that the link doesn’t start with the Discord domain name.
Discord has a single point of registration though.
You can see the same communities from lemmy.world and lemm.ee, more or less. But the average user doesnt know that. They get confused. People are stupid. Sad, I know, but also true.
Run away.
Enshitification is on the horizon…
On the horizon? They crossed that horizon a long time ago. It’s just going to accelerate now
Bet they’ll go the way of Slack and put old messages behind a paywall
