• angleangel@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    A Reddit spokesperson, who requested that The Verge not use their name due to the sensitive subject matter

    What the fuck is this? We’re granting corporate spokespeople anonymity now?

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      You give it to whoever asks for it or you never get another source again.

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          Was this corporate spokesperson authorized to talk to this outlet about this topic? Just because they’re a spokesperson doesn’t mean they can talk freely.

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            Yes, that’s what a spokesperson is. Did you read the article? If it was a leak that would have been stated.

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              I still don’t get it. Nothing there says a spokesperson is not a source. Which is good because saying such a thing would make absolutely no sense.

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                A corporate spokesperson spoke to them “on background”. A “corporate communications professional speaking to [them] in [their] official capacity“ has the option detailed in that section to request anonymity while being quoted.

                There must have been an agreement between The Verge and the corporate representative to speak without being identified beyond their affiliation with the company, as described In the section titled “on background”.

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      Uhh, isn’t that kinda against the whole point of being a spokesperson in the first place? To put a name and a face behind a message?

      Dunno why The Verge plays along.

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        Because The Verge wants them to return their calls. It’s not like it matters. Spokespeople aren’t the ones making decisions. It’s the C-suits, which is publicly available.

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        What the fuck is “the anti evil operations team”? That sounds like corpospeak for a team that does deeply evil shit

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      Actually, yeah. Otherwise, you fuck up whistleblowing. They could be in the position, realize what’s happening is wrong, be documenting it, trying to get out, etc…

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        Are you seriously suggesting there is no way to grant whistleblowers anonymity without granting it to corporate spokespeople providing statements on behalf of the company? You’re a fucking idiot

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    Luigi is a hero.

    See how easy that is when you aren’t given the table scraps of the rich?

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    Fucking scary shit. Now, it is simply “liking” content Reddit doesn’t like. Soon, it will be upvoting things that the government doesn’t want you to see, or paints them in a bad light.

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    I’m actually so happy to see the start of the fall of Reddit. It’s been going on for a couple years or so, but it is happening.

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      It’s so ironic how a site with a leftist lean just chose to alienate their core base. I guess their hope conservatives and liberals staying will make up for it? Lol

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          At least on Facebook you practically always choose friends to add, groups to join, pages to follow, etc. A surprisingly large number of Reddit users just stick to the default subreddits.

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        Leftist lean is a bit of an understatement. It’s not just Reddit. In general, the radical left is being recognized for the violence and chaos they’ve spread over the last decade and the government is realizing they were left unchecked for too long.

        Now they’re just being treated the same as the radical right.

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          As a centrist, I don’t see the radical left being courted by the president, so I think your comment is presenting a bit of a false equivalence, champ.

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            I’m a centrist too…

            It’s crazy that a pendulum swings drastically back and forth isn’t it? Not a false equivalency if you have any understanding of historical geopolitics.

            If you marginalize and de-platform an entire half of your voter base, and cancel people for taking a centrist stance, they’re more likely to band together against your cause, doing more harm long term than if you just toed a rational line.

            IE. Because the right were treated the way the left are now being treated for so long, they were polarized and radicalized to the result of who your president is now.

            Also, not American, this isn’t just an American thing. This is happening globally.

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                Here is a great example of the “if you’re not with us you’re against us” mentality: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/may/28/centrism-insidious-bias-unjust-status-quo

                Reasonable views being cancelled:

                Bari Weiss: A former opinion editor and writer at The New York Times, Weiss is known for her centrist views, often critiquing both the far-left and far-right. In July 2020, she resigned from the newspaper, citing a hostile work environment and alleging that her centrist stances led to bullying by colleagues. ​

                Example of extremes people will go to silence the moderates…

                Stefan Gelbhaar: A member of Germany’s Green Party, Gelbhaar, associated with the party’s more centrist “Realo” wing, was forced to withdraw from the federal election race following false sexual harassment allegations. An investigation later revealed that the accusations came from a fictitious persona created by a local Green official, leading to internal tensions within the party.

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          I’d not be dismayed to see a bit of violence and chaos from the radical left but I’m struggling to think of examples - do you have some?

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              Okay, what violence did the pro-palestine movement spread, exactly?

              I can accept that some buildings got torched and property values temporarily reduced during the George Floyd protests, but when I hear violence, I think harm against flesh and blood, which the police did much, much more of. I can’t think of many instances where the protestors did that.

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              You are gonna have a hard time around this here social media, comrade, with these clown takes…

              There are better places for bootlickers out there

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              Those just come off as regular left to me.

              When I think of radical left I think tanky types who are full on nationalists and pro authoritarian governments that suppress free think that they are indistinguishable from the far right other than just differences when it comes to stuff like government assisted programs.

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                I wish I could find it, but I can’t remember which research paper I came across it for; however there is a routine survey and report that measures how Americans feel about core values over time with no changes in the questions, and what it’s shown is that conservatives have moved a little bit more right of centre on most issues, but that liberals have moved almost entirely to the far left.

                The thing is, the whole point of liberalism is to consistently move the needle of progress. So it baffles me people fail to realize that today’s “normal” leftist ideologies a decade ago were those people you’re mentioning. But to someone who is still fighting those ideals and hasn’t changed their stance at all, they are still radical ideals.

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          This is unhinged. The so called “radical left” is largely a scapegoat for the people that currently run the government. The “radical left” isn’t going around shooting up synagogues and black churches. Even the one act of violence the “radical left” supports was committed by somebody who clearly was more of a “radical centrist”

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            Here in Canada they burned churches.

            Also, leftist catch and release policy in Canada results in people with dozens of offences immediately put back on the street, and this has resulted in many murders, sexual assaults, continued violent crime by routine offenders. The weak on crime stance has resulted in massive crime increases here. Albeit not a political thing for the people doing the crimes, but a symptom of the policies.

            Also, I think everyone is pro-Luigi if that’s the crime you’re talking about. Common ground for all

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        Spez is a loser with only millions, compared to his billionaire tech bros. This is the main reason he started ruining reddit in the past years, he is frustrated and wants to also become a billionaire like his buddies

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            In their minds, that’s literally it. They compare themselves to billionaires. Millionaires are just temporarily embarassed billionaires.

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    People saying Luigi is a hero but then defend the Democrats. Truly astonishing. Luigi’s actions are a call to systemic revolution. He is a god damn hero, and will probably go down as a martyr if the federal government gets their way.

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      He is not a hero, but he is the first crack in the floodgates. Whoever he is, he is a first sign of people losing temper. And his ongoing defence in court is a vehicle to make important problems relevant. Not everyone can stand behind shooting a CEO, but his act introduced the long-silenced topic that is a common ground with MAGA people too, and that’s why corpo fuckers want to put it down.

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    Yeah, I was banned for talking about suicidal thoughts, so they’re definitely going to ban me if I say Luigi Mangione is my hero and did a beautiful thing.

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        Yeah, thank you. My post was really just a “if things get bad enough, I can always blow my brains out which gives me a strange sense of comfort” sort of thing and it was flagged as threats of violence… against myself I guess? Silly. I will of course do my best to not let things get to that point and try to look for the positives in life.