Like, it can’t be a real person, right? Has anyone tried following the links? I’m curious how they’re scamming people. It just seems like anyone getting the same message 5 times won’t fall for being catfished, so I don’t understand what their strategy is.

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    The same reason a lot scam emails are riddled with typos, follow recognisable formats (eg nigerian prince) and can be easily determined as scams. If you can spot it, you aren’t the mark. It’s a form of selection bias. If you recognise Nicole you probably aren’t new to Lemmy or the Fediverse and are a bad mark. I’d guess, I never followed the links, don’t generally follow links dm’d from random, days old accounts in general. Maybe Nicole truly is just thirsty for Lemmy friends and keeps getting banned lmao.

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      If you can spot it, you aren’t the mark.

      This doesn’t make any sense to me.

      Why would you deliberately make your bait less appealing to filter out the fish that might wriggle off the hook before you land them?

      The typo’s are in order to evade bayesian spam filters which get suspicious about certain words.

      The common formats are used because those are the ones that work.

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        Because you’re selecting with people who lack experience with scam/critical thinking to figure out they’re scams.

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          I understood you the first time. My point is, it’s nonsensical.

          If you’re sending emails to potential victims you want as many responses as you can get.

          It’s an absurdity to suggest that typing errors would intelligently select for people more likely to be scammed.

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            I’m not arguing about this. Especially not with a baby account. This is an opinion informed by expert opinion on the matter, and I work in tech. If you think it’s “nonsensical” that’s on you.

            However, the reason why phishing emails have so many typos is simple—they’re intentional and are included by design. The scammer’s goal is to send phishing emails to a very gullible, innocent victim. If they have typos, they’re essentially weeding out recipients too smart to fall for the scam.

            Source.

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        The initial fishing is a low effort, wide net. What follows actually takes the investment of man hours and/or other resources. They would rather get 1 catch they can take all the way, than 500 where 495 will figure it out later and bail.

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      Honestly people that do recognize it for what it is should respond. Keep them talking to waste their time so they can’t hurt someone else.

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        That easier done with more involved scams like phone calls you see YouTubers do. Especially since they likely paid for that info. Places like here there’s no buy in so it’s a volume game i imagine. If I can’t get you to another platform to buy me stuff I’d move on to the next one quickly as possible.

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          I had one Indian scammer use my name so I was interested. Then he asked if my email was still current and gave an email that I used like 20 years ago in middle school. I laughed and told him he paid for shitty info. It was a goddamn Hotmail account to give you an idea.

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          If we all wasted 5 minutes we could shut down the system.

          People really underestimate the power of collective action. It’s just meat based ddos.

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            I mean if everyone “collective action” ignored them together, no one would have to waste even 5 minutes ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

            And theoretically, if there would be the same amount of scammers as decent people, everyone would have to waste all their time with your strategy, but with my strategy none of the decent people would waste time.

            But yes I understand it of course, protecting the weak is not a bad thing.

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              you mean, everyone who already knows it’s a scam or can recognize that it probably is. which is not everyone. otherwise the whole thing wouldn’t exist.

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      I guess the scammers are also in the process of figuring out how to use the Fediverse. Give them time. :)

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      Yeah this is what I’m confused about, why would you send your potential catfish victims to the same place where they can talk to each other and then ignore them?

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    The strategy is to get you onto a different platform to make instant messaging easier. They are just “advertising” on Lemmy.

    Once you’re on a chat platform, they will likely attempt the Pig Butchering scam: make the target fall in love, then persuade them to send money for things like “travel expenses” or “family medical bills”. Also involves buying crypto.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_butchering_scam

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    I’ve received 3 Nicole messages since I’ve been on here, each one with a different photo. It’s weird, really weird. I ran the photos through TinEye and Google Reverse Image Search but I found no exact matches. The photos are blurry somewhat, which implies that they are shots taken from a video, which is a method catfish have used to evade detection. It’s also possible that the original photos have long been deleted (as far as I’m aware, this would contribute to evading detection) and the catfish is using this to their advantage.

    Someone looked into one of the Nicole accounts, and on that account there was a photo of something shiny, I believe it was a buttplug, and there was clearly a reflection of an old white man reflecting off the object. Once that was pointed out, they deleted the photo. So whatever the intentions are, I’m sure it’s nothing good.

    I’m guessing it’s a pig butchering scam of some kind. The messages advertise other platforms, along with a chatroom that is named “hell”. The aim is to lull a person into a false sense of security via catfishing, pretending to be the their friend or lover, and then pull a scam on them.