yes i am an american.

but the general sentiments i see online about americans are wildly ignorant and it genuinely pisses me off how the global rising tide in fascism is == america in a lot of people’s minds. guess it’s just easier to engage in the same idiotic nonsense the fascists do than to engage in any critical thinking.

two primary points:

  1. americans aren’t just fucking lazy and aren’t just “letting” things happen. some victim blaming bullshit if i ever heard it. it also very much demonstrates that despite your “european worldliness” you’ve never left your tiny village/corner of the earth and seen anything different in this world besides the one time you went to monaco as a teen. americans don’t protest for a variety of socioeconomic and political factors, not one of which is “they don’t give a shit.” most americans live in cities that are incredibly far apart from one another and, in the context of a single given city, usually pretty demographically consistent actually. a given city won’t vary much inside that city, but might be very different from another city. this means americans, limited by their lack of walking infrastructure and their cities being massively spread apart in a spatial sense, really can only choose to effectively spontaneously protest in their local city and neighboring municipalities. most people there already probably agree with you to a degree, it’s preaching to the choir. seats of political power here are hundreds of thousands of miles away from most people. it would be like, a literal fucking LOTR scale and size adventure for most americans to go protest their government. and this is intentional. that is why they don’t. not because they don’t want to. not because they’re ignorant. not because they’ve given up. it is because they physically, economically, and even rationally; just can’t do it. they’re as much a victim as anyone else. this is something being done to them, not by them.

  2. this stupidly fucking ignorant notion that somehow americans are single-handedly responsible for western neofascism. guess what? for decades, you guys lazily sat and got fucking fat on corpo cheese too; it isn’t just americans who fell prey to this centuries spanning grift! europeans have exactly all the same problems with entrenched corporatism in their societies and feel too proud to notice it or do anything about it before the same things happening here happen there; except this time in an entirely homegrown sense instead of being imported from america. americans just, for better or worse, did capitalism more and better than anyone else in history. our collapse and reckoning happened to come first chronologically, for that reason. make no mistake, though, friend. we all have our hands in the collapse-pot. this is something much bigger than just a nation state or people. this is the end of nation states, the end of an existing world order. those who recognize this will do well in this life, those who don’t won’t.

sorry for my unhinged babbling rant i just got lots of feelings, ideas, and thoughts and nowhere to have discourse.

hope not to offend anyone. love all the european homies.

EDIT: at exactly 16 upvotes and 16 downvotes on this post rn. proud to have said something truly divisive lmao ;)

  • Skull giver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nlEnglish
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    1 month ago

    Europe is full of bigoted, racist leaders. Countries like Poland has been met with plenty of anti-Polish sentiment with their anti-LGBT+ zones and their attempted reform of the legal system. Hungary, as a country, is disliked by many Europeans for being Putin’s little pawn. Most of Europe’s governments are either assholes or hypocrites, letting Gaza be genocided while aiding Ukraine in its defence against Russia.

    Most Anti-American sentiment is mostly a response to a) over half your country being stupid enough to vote Trump over literally anybody else and b) the trade wars the government you elected have started and with a bit of c) the whole Ukraine situation.

    I don’t really get what protesting is supposed to do. The people voted, the majority of the people that bothered to show up proved to be idiots, so idiots rule the country. I haven’t seen any proof of foul play during the election, this is what the people wanted. You should protest against the supposed checks and balances that should be stopping Trump, but protesting Trump itself is silly. He and his idiotic policies are what the voters wanted to happen.

    There was a time and a place to stop Trump, and it was at the voting booth. Not enough people showed up to make a difference. Either because some people didn’t bother to vote, or because on average, Americans really do support this bullshit.

    If you’re going to take action, explain to your fellow people how they have been misled, or if why they’re wrong if they stand behind the shit your government does. When prices rise in the coming few months, explain to your Trump loving family that this is the results of tariffs. Don’t gloat, don’t say things like “I told you so”, let them protect their pride by telling them they’ve been lied to. Many of them have been.

    If you somehow succesfully sabotage the system into blocking Trump through protests, the Trump fan club is going to use those exact tactics in four years time when the obligatory change of the guard puts some other fossil in charge.

    • jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
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      1 month ago

      Either because some people didn’t bother to vote, or because on average, Americans really do support this bullshit.

      no, americans do not “on average” support this. it wasn’t just “some” people who “didn’t bother to vote,” it was the vast majority of our nation that did not vote. and it isn’t strictly because of voter apathy. how fucking stupid do you have to be to believe 2/3 of americans are simply so apathetic and careless about their lives as to produce this level of electoral non-participation? occam’s fucking razor my guy. it is significantly more likely and makes much more sense to recognize the reality that our democracy is a farce and most people practically were not allowed/given the opportunity to vote.

      https://www.environmentalvoter.org/updates/2024-was-landslidefor-did-not-vote

      americans do not “really support this bulshit.” this is the exact sort of awful fascist-apologist misinformation that spurred me to make my post in the first place.

      fuck you, you fucking fascist rat. stop outright lying to people to argue your point…

      for those of you who aren’t hellbent on spreading shit and misinformation, we’re all in this together. good luck in the coming years guys.