Oh that’s cheeky. China has control of the current Panchen Lama, don’t they?
Yeah they disappeared him and his family when he was just 6 years old, then announced a loyalist the new Panchen Llama. That was 30 years ago.
Alright first one to Suck my tongue is the next Dalai Lama!
His holiness, the great pedophile.
Ah, nothing but a bit of casual racism on your left wing platform.
whats racist about making fun of someone who asked a child to suck their tongue? are you defending that?
Seemed like cognitive decline to me when he did that. My grandma started making rape allegations near her end and saying absolutely unhinged sexual nonsense.
wanted to say the same, that behavior just screams loss of inhibition because of frontal brain matter loss a.k.a. dementia
What you are doing here is using the western culture as a benchmark to judge the culture of another region. Not everything is seen trough a sexual lens, that’s just your western mindset doing that.
You can read about it here, for example.
So its a common greeting but the tongue sucking was teasing? I hate to see the other ways he teases kids.
Seriously though, I dont think its racism. Maybe its part of the culture and he’s honest saying there’s no sexual intention but also I think pedophiles have a history of saying this isn’t what it looks like when called out.
But he didn’t say that. Others have defended him, yes.
The Dalai Lama hinself apologised for the joke and acknowledged that it must have sounded strange for a western audience.
The mother of the boy was sitting in true audience and she wasn’t offended by it at all. She defended the Dalai Lama. That in of itself doesn’t mean anything, I have to admit. If you’re in a cult you tend to close your eyes to abuse. But take a closer look at the whole situation:
Of course, it could be possible that the person whon spent his live reaching out to the West, preaching about love and kindness, decided to make a very puplic statement about his pedophile nature while beeing on a stage surrounded by cameras. Or it was an interaction between two people of a different culture whom had an exchange that, admittedly, sounds strange to Western ears.
I know what I think is more likley here. Especially because there was nothing else after this. Usually, once a public person is called out for abusive behaviour, there will be some victims who are encouraged to break their silence. In this case? Nothing. Doesn’t that make you question your assumption of him beeing a pedo at least a bit?
Oblivious/unaware people can defend pedos.
Glad he apologized cos it was strange.
Yes, youre right. Her defending him means nothing here.
Plenty of examples in the past of pedos being pedos while cameras role.
Yes victims are encouraged to come forward but there’s no obligation. Maybe the victims are still very young or maybe they’re adults or maybe they dont exist, we dont know.
I won’t make an accusation without knowing more but I hope people who have the power to investigate do it.
No,but the dalai lama who is tibetan and is a believer in tibetan Buddhism which has child sex slaves for most of its existence is in fact a pedophile.
This is from someone with an East Asian mindset.
Sucking children’s tongues or vice versa is weird here in China too.
I guess that rules out the US.
At the rate things are going, the kid’s gonna need to be born off-planet.
He’s actually making a political statement, imho, though. He’s attempting to prevent China’s inevitable attempt to replace him with one of their own.
China already took custody of the young Panchen Lama, who plays an integral part in identifying the reincarnated Dalai Lama.
I’d say their attempt to replace him is more than inevitable – it’s already underway.
Ironically musk starting a servitude-built Mars colony and then the next religious leader that can just exist in a vacuum without dying or breathing or something is basically where I’m putting my faith in this timeline I live in; because it appears logic and human compassion were cool ideas when more people were using psychedelic drugs.
The Bitcoin reserve might be the closest thing to property rights the US has achieved in a century. Its been 10 years of stealing peoples gold and purchasing power, in order to deliver stellar bailouts to risky bankers and hedge funds.
It’s not a bitcoin reserve it’s a corrupt shitcoin reserve so that musk and pals can pilfer US dollars. Do you really just believe everything the proven liar says?
Hm, I think he failed his magic spell and we got DALL-E and Llama instead.
Isn’t that the plot of little Buddha?
Please tell me that’s Bobby.
Is the panchen lama still imprisoned in China? How will they find the next Dalai lama?
He is most probably dead.
It’s doubtful that they killed him, he was just a kid when they took him. They have him squirrelled away somewhere, having gone through heavy indoctrination. Just waiting for the Dali Lama to die.
Planning on international child trafficking this time? Quite progressive abduction policy. Fucking Catholic Buddhist child abusers. How is it they get a pass? “Oh that whole tongue sucking thing was just a joke!” SMDH
Catholic buddhist?
I think they mean “is bhuddist, acts catholic”
I know, religion is bad an’ all that, but I like this guy. Always did.
The stuff he tells to the world is very different from what he tells his own followers. Let’s not forget that he comes from a very long tradition of repressive theocracy.
Worse then raping children and a “god given” mandate to colonize and exploit the world? Just saying that most religions are like this
Yeah it’s not like he’s asking little boys to suck on his tongue or anything…
Oh. https://www.npr.org/2023/04/10/1168962589/dalai-lama-apologizes-tongue-kiss
Worse than systematic rape within the Catholic church? No offence but I remember this situation and is this all you have? I follow the law of atleast three instances before thinking about patterns (unless the previous 2 are atrocious) this wasn’t atrocious, this is silly and weird but also this is fucking Tibet not london. White ignorant ass making wild assumptions over seemingly minor stuff
You sure this is the hill you want to die on? Defending a religious leader who has already admitted to pedophilic behavior?
Why do you think I’m defending other religions?
And no, it’s not minor, and it’s kind of telling that you’re wiling to ignore it so easily. Would it be minor if it was your child? It’s absolutely atrocious, and unacceptable no matter where you reside on the planet.
You sure this is the hill you want to die on? Defending a religious leader who has already admitted to pedophilic behavior?
Buddy it seems like between the two of us. You’re the one out of sources. You’re really digging into this one thing. Is that all you have and yet have the gall to talk about a hill to die on?
I’m not defending the dali liama, but i am saying you lack any Nuance or any knowledge on the topic and this conversation is proof of that.
Would it be minor if it was your child? It’s absolutely atrocious, and unacceptable no matter where you reside on the planet.
Not everybody on earth acts like a European/American. Believe it or not, not every culture Is as sex obsessed. You can be hugged and kissed by people you share absolutely no blood to in many Asian cultures (coming from an Asian) and the nuances are long and varied, longer than I can be bothered to write but it you had any willingness to learn, you would and could, but that’s asking too much.
So I ask again, you say pedophilic behaviour, a pedo is someone who is sexually attracted to kids. I’ll ask again, did the Dali liama fuck a child or say publically he wants to fuck children? Even on Lemmy it seems critical debate is a dying breed
The dude sucked a child’s tongue. It’s fucking disgusting that you’re defending that.
The religions where you chill on a stone all your life and meditate are basically the only ok religions.
If that was the version of Buddhism he’s advocating for Tibet would still be an autonomous region instead of under direct control.
They had child sex slaves and a caste system that would make some parts of India blush.
I didn’t realise that human rights violations were justification for invasion and conquest.
Imperialism is wrong no matter who is doing to conquering or being conquered.
I didn’t realise that human rights violations were justification for invasion and conquest
Dumbest take ever. The British and the Americans were right to send troops to France under Nazi rule because it was a mission to liberate French people. The USSR was right to send troops to Czechoslovakia to liberate people from Nazi rule. China was right to send troops to Tibet to free the people from their brutal feudalistic rule.
I fucking wish that my homeland (Spain) had been “invaded” by English and French troops to fight fascism in the 30s rather than ending up with a homegrown fascist dictatorship.
“Little Buddha” staring Bridget Fonda , chris Isaak and Keanu Reves in black face
it’s cool that he can know these things
Actually, anyone can make up stuff as much as they like.
Yes, but it’s the fanbase that matters.
You can call it a cope but the writing is on the wall for them: the Dalai Lama either exists outside of China in the next generation or there is no next generation as the dictatorship exerts full control over them.
It’s over for them. Their temples have been torn down, their faith has become a political tool.
I assume you don’t believe in Buddhism, but if you do it makes sense. The Dalai Lama is the reincarnation of an enlightened being. Its like if jesus would have come back all the time instead of just once for a few days. (It’s not exactly like that and I’m not Buddhist)
Theres only so many places with concentrations of tibetan buddhists. it wont be India, china, or tibet. That leaves Mongolia or Russia.
My insane prediction:
The next Dalai Lama will be born to the one random Tibetan Buddhist family living in a small town in rural Alabama.
Of course, is I was the Lama, I would throw a curve ball and come back as transgender Nigerian woman, just to mix things up.
unlikely, he clearly said, free world.
If you ascribe to the idea that the Dalaï Llama is/was a cia operative, and a sort of bridge/conduit between the interests of East and West, this sets up quite the “lottery” for where power may shift.
Because his followers are quite far and wide, not just of “race” (and I use that very loosely), it creates a very powerful base that will follow a sort of leader.
Interesting timing, especially since his long time friend the Aga Khan just passed away.
Dali llama is a cia stooge
I think it’s a little racist to remove agency from people who’ve made moves equally validly explained as self-defence and preservation against a hostile invader.
The invader was only hostile to the wealthy landowners who quite literally enslaved the people in literally feudal Tibet. Imagine if China had given international recognition to Marie Antoinette during the French Revolution, and people were treating her as a sort of government in exile. This is literally what the US is doing with the fucking Dalai Lama
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China invaded as part of a Tibetan civil war over the way that Amdo (or maybe Kham, can’t recall which right now) was governed by Lhasa and the Dali Lama. It was hostile to the Lhasa government and partisan on the side of the faction that asked for China’s help to win the war, and promised obedient vassalage in return.
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The society in pre-PRC conquest of Tibet was similar to Nepal. Yes, it involved indentured labour, but it had already began a process of legislating against many of the worst practices in the decades prior to 1951. Should (or should have) the PRC, or any nation, invade Nepal?
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Imagine if the US says that Iran, North Korea, or China’s treatment of its citizens is cassus belli and annexes them after an overwhelming show of force (similar to the post WW2 vassalage of South Korea, when the USSR and USA bilaterally agreed to take split control of finally independent Korea).
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The Bourbon survivors, such as the Duke of Orleans, were literally taken in by other nations in Europe and treated as a government in exile. Can you not see how that’s a logical understandable choice. Claiming the Duke of Orleans was an Austrian stooge for accepting aid from Austro-Hungary would be, I think you’d agree, ridiculous.
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