First of all, I don’t mean this post as a complaint, maybe more of a warning?
There is teenagers on the fediverse. Most of them don’t share their age, for hopefully obvious reasons. I’d say that a lot of the accounts which do a lot of posting/commenting are run by teenagers — because most adults probably wouldn’t have the time for that much posting.
While the young people of this generation are generally useless when it comes to something more complicated than microsoft word, the people who are good at technology, usually are very good at it.
most of my friends (most of which don’t know the difference between a laptop and a desktop) could understand the fediverse as a concept perfectly when I explained it to them irl.
So, if you’re in a really stupid argument with someone, try to remember that there is a small chance they are 14.
WARNING To the People of Earth: Teenagers exist. BEWARE
Pretty much yeah, most people assume that no one under 30 is on fedi because its “hard” to use.
What part of the fediverse is “hard” to use?
Lemmy is easier to use than the UBB forum I started to become active on at the age of 10 that was the entry point for me being on the Internet at all. Back then we didn’t have Markdown, but BBCode, and I had that figured out after a few weeks.
I think you’re way underestimating young people.
I am a young person. It made sense once i explained it to them, but they had no idea how to do anything without my help, at first.
I’m old. I’m not sure what part of lemmy is hard. It’s just sign up, click a few things, download an app if you want. I don’t even have to remember a password. You don’t have to know how to build a car in order to drive.
Yes, noticed the influx of youngsters recently in the daily posts of ‘how come my boyfriend won’t talk to me’, ‘why are the girls at school so jealous of me’, etc. Also, putting 19/f in the post. What’s that about?
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I’m 19 and assumed that there are at least a few. And with that I’m correct.
You are.
The assumptions that people make about age boggle my mind. You know that the people who made the internet are all “old” now, right?
I’m 24 and I’m using it just fine. I’d say that after signing up somewhere and getting an app to login into, the rest is pretty simple and much similar to reddit
With lemmy? definitely! On the mastodon side of things? no. Mastodon seems to be for german middle aged bikers now.
Oh boy, I should get on Mastodon!
You should also check sharkey! calckey.world
Invite only instances are even worse because of constant fear of banhammer treatment for wrongthink and then making second account is kinda hard
Well, I don’t know. Mastodon seems fine to me too
How is Mastodon harder? (Legit question, not snark)
There is more missing replies/reactions, and picking an instance is a bit harder imo. Also search is completely broken.
Fedi does screw heavy middle aged and male and US but any one who can handle Linux can figure our how to operate here haha
Yeah kids might be retarded tech wise now but there is always the nerds who excel at tech so they would naturally end up here
Just a heads up, thats considered a slur.
Also, you’re forgetting the germans! Fedi seems really popular there.
Honestly as an older person it very much feels like a lot of Lemmy is under 25. It’s the little things like not understanding the historical context that something from the past fits in while simultaneously telling me Im wrong about the time that I lived through.
It’s the little things like not understanding the historical context that something from the past fits in while simultaneously telling me Im wrong about the time that I lived through.
In fairness, that’s not necessarily a sign of them being young, but could be any number of things at play. I’ve had my grandmother literally tell me not to tell hew how things were during World War II, because she lived through it, when we were talking about well documented actions of major historical figures that she was confidently incorrect about. No amount of documentation about what Churchill, Stalin or Hitler did during a particular event could change her mind, because she lived through it, never mind the fact that she was like 10 at the time. /r/AskHistorians had a 20 year moratorium on discussing recent events for a reason. Then again, this is the same lady who left her church of decades, because she was sure she was better at interpreting the Bible and church doctrine than all the priests who spent years studying those topics in seminary, since she occasionally read random books of the Bible and was older than they were.
It could also just be peoples’ biases at play. A Marxist historian and a fundamentalist, conservative Christian historian will come to wildly different conclusions and interpretations of things like the significance and impact of the rise of the religious right in the US under figures like Ronald Reagan, despite looking at the very same events.
And it could always just be that people are essentially engaging in drive-by posting quite often on the internet. For all the good things it can bring us, and the sense of community that it often provides, I think that internet “communities” really just provide us with a close approximation of community, while fundamentally lacking key elements that help real communities to exist and function in the long term. Personally, I’m closer to the Democratic moderates/centrists that abound on Lemmy.world than I am to my coworkers or my parents politically, yet I find that political discussions here tend to lose all civility and sincerity much quicker than they do with my boss who is all gung-ho for MAGA in real life. Like, I actually got my boss to come around on things like taxing the rich and universal healthcare when I had a chance to explain them without the hysterical stuff Fox tosses out and with examples of how they would actually benefit him to have as a baseline during election season last year, and it was a more civil and less heated conversation than some of those I had here a few months prior about whether Harris was really a good pick when the Democrats announced her as their candidate last year.
You are either a 14 year old socialist furry or a 35 year old Linux user on the fedi. No in between
I am a 30 year old socialist furry Linux user on the fedi. But that’s just the exception that proves the rule.
Ooof well older than that Sonny…
Sometimes much older
Teenagers now get banned if they tell their age anyway: [email protected]
To any teens who come across this post, do NOT admit you’re underage or were underage at time of account creation anywhere, anytime for any reason
It’s like Rule 1 of the internet.
Sincerely, The kids who grew alongside the internet since the 90s
I was totally above 13 or had parental consent when I went to forums in the early 2000s. I totally wasn’t actually 9.
It’s wild to me this concept disappeared? It’s literally never been a good idea to reveal you’re a minor online. The laws are against you. Companies don’t want to deal with a curated minor experience, even less so in the current times. If they do, you get the crappier version of things.
The worst thing to happen to the Internet is when Facebook normalized using your real name and real info online.
I agree. The main thing is teenagers wanting to discuss stuff about them, like on r/teenagers on reddit.
Back in the days we’d get free hosting and slap phpBB on it. Run for kids by kids, no pesky adult rules!
Those were the days. No credit cards needed, no nothing, just free 50MB of Apache/MySQL/PHP4 hosting with no strings attached.
If the fediverse was a thing I’d probably have had my own instance starting age 14-15ish.
A/S/L
14/f/under your floorboards
14/f/under your floorboards
Translation: Either “FBI” or “40/m/under your floorboards”
No, I’m just stuck. Bring a water-based lubricant to help me come out
17/F/Cali
Nice one, my fed Joe
On my main account (this is a throwaway, if the username didn’t already suggest that) I’m sure if you dug around enough you’d find out my age, but it would be a lot of effort.
I was -1 years old when creating this account🚬
Believe it or not BAN
And what’s the problem with that?
Laws don’t currently make a concession for federated social media. If the law in an instance’s jurisdiction says that users on a platform must be of a certain age, then for practical/enforcement purposes it makes no difference if they’re local or federated.
FWIW, I also ban people under age 18 on my instance (local and federated). Obviously I can’t know everyone’s age, but if someone offers it and I become aware, and it’s below the minimum age set in our policy, then they’re banned until they’re of age - simple as that.
I’m in the US, so 13 is the minimum age by law for most services (COPPA), and there’s various grumblings to increase the age specifically for social media, so I’m playing it safe with 18 which is the age you’re legally considered an adult.
Considering some of the stuff that gets posted here (legitimately and via bad actors), then my legal liabilities are less as I’m going out of my way to only serve adults on the platform. Mind you, I’m running this as a hobby / volunteer and do not have a team of lawyers on hand.
Lemm.ee goes with 16, as does Blahaj.
The case linked was kind of an edge case as that user is turning 18 in a few months.
Meh. At least pretending to be an adult feels like a pretty low bar.
Nobody should pretend and nobody should have to li
Also, nobody should volunteer age info for no reason… Esp under age crowd. Fucking pedos everywhere
Thats why I made this post. If a teenager is on the fediverse, they will know how to evade a ban.
Makes sense!
I’ve long assumed that many (most?) of the tankies, and of hexbear’s userbase in general, are teens.
The Lemmy devs themselves are around 18, I think.
This is actually a good thing - teenagers are known to bring niche things into popular culture! For some reason the whole of society kind of cares what they think is cool
Most free time, rich teens spending their parents money drive our trends probably , not even probably thats most influencers, like alix earle , its funny af that all the girls ik that repost eat the rich and shit follow her and taylor swift
Ah yes, of course other generations are much better with technology than today’s teens.
They are, teenagers (saying this as a teenager) are hopeless. Tech became so easy to use that anything requiring a tiny bit of effort is impossible for these people.
Its the same as its always been. There was always a small subset of the population interested and developing computer sciences. There was never this time where all the youngins knew computers like they did breathing. That was a fallacy.
You’re right, but at least most millennials seem to be able to update windows, or download a youtube video if they’re determined enough.
I would say you are kinda right, but working help desk for a few years taught me there are still a ton of dumb ass millennial users.
Not most I know lol
At 14, me and most of my peers could navigate a file system on DOS, format floppies, install games from setup disks, and edit autoexec.bat files.
Yes, there is a huge difference between the teens of today and the teens of 25 years ago. Technological illiteracy is real thanks to the iPhone era and UIs becoming stupid simple to use.
Congrats, you lived in a social bubble. As we all do. Your sounds fun, so cherish the memories and don’t pretend your experience is universal.
Huge variations. I’d say probably the technologically literate percentages of people is about the same… but tech has allowed the technologically illiterate the ability to use the internet.
Listen teens, I’m 40. I was a niteclub bouncer in a town popular with backpackers and partying, I also did a lot of traveling and partying. I was shameless, its a miracle it didnt fall off.
When you say you fucked my mom, its childish and stupid. When I say it while its not likely its possible… and thats worse.
14 going on 40 so it will be some spirited ebeef. No quarter will be given
Why do you think teens are generally stupid?
As a teenager, I get in stupid arguments making stupid points because in my head, being right is important.
Look back at the shit you wrote as a teenager. We were all dumb.
not teens, arguments (as in wasted effort to textually convince or defeat a faceless web foe) are usually stupid
As a teenager who is relatively tech-savvy and on the fediverse, can confirm. I think it’s gotten to the point where even less technically inclined people can join fairly easily, but the more savvy are usually the first to flee from enshittifying platforms so we see a lot more of them here.
https://lemmy.cafe/post/14200034
Be careful admitting that.
Teenager ≠ underage, 18 and 19 year olds exist. But thanks for your concern. :)
Most of us would post on forums as teens back in the day, so it’s hypocritical to try to keep them from doing it too. The only places we should run them off would be communities we specifically make for adults. They don’t necessarily have to be NSFW. Sometimes it’s just nice to have a community where everyone is old enough that they get the same references and are in similar stages in life.
General music and hobby related communities really shouldn’t be blocked off, though.
we would not stop from accessing adult stuff, if we wanted to. so trying to hard prevent them now would be hypocritical too imo. it is our job as parents to prepare them as good as we can.
A friend and I just yesterday talked about that and how we both visited some random sites/communities back then. How we had ICQ Chats with adults as 13-somethings, phone calls, about the blogosphere, how some Internet friends asked whether you needed something and send it on a disc via Mail.
I suppose if I were a teenager again, I would be here too.
I mean, as a teenager, if a community says in the rules that its for adults only, I’d avoid it.
Press x to doubt
I’m actually surprised that a few lemmy instances allow minors to sign up. I don’t get it. It’s always a liability and platforms tend to become dystopian in the name of “protecting the children” and to comply with additional laws and requirements…
Honestly I’m now thinking of migrating from lemm.ee now that I learned of it allowing minors, this instance could turn into shit because of it. Example: “we’ll defederate from any mature instance because the kids can’t see boob”
WHAT!!!??
TEENAGERS??
ONLINE???
Brooo I had no idea… how could this happen? I never would’ve guessed there could be teenagers despite at one point being one and using the internet. I get you’re probably pretty new to being online but like come on, the rest of the world doesn’t discover things at the rate you do…
Surprise, surprise. Some chunk of Reddit annoyances stem from kids running around amok.
Then moderators make many stupid rules to try to increase quality and overmoderation takes hold
In short time it becomes increasingly annoying to browse let alone post to get past the anti teen rules filter. Not to mention all the young hormones commenting some stuff at you like it is school break slander or smh
One can always change instance though so it isn’t doom and gloom. The kids will have Lemmy.world and nice, enjoy it and have fun. It is the club penguin of Lemmy instances. We know it would happen